The Democratic Party has moved too far to the left.

[Dill]

(12-03-2019, 12:44 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: What a grossly oversimplified view of things.  It seems you're implying that every "too far left" idea will be tomorrow's normality.  One need look at the most extreme states to see far left policies having a significant negative impact.  Of course one can make the exact same argument with far right states, proving only what most of us already know, that ideological extremism is a poor way to run a city, county, state or country.

I'm definitely descriptively "implying" that in the U.S., ideas opposed as "socialist" and "leftism" have turned out to be very popular because they are helpful, good for people.

I might have added that from the 1930s on, comparisons to the Soviet Union accompanied attacks on "the left." Why shouldn't that figure as "grossly oversimplifying" things?

If Social Security and Medicare did not lead to the Gulag in the U.S., it is not clear that variations of medicare for all would either.

Because so many "too far left" ideas have become a worthy normality--you have defended them yourself--that history should be opposed to yet another effort to frame an election as a choice between "far left socialism" and the true American way.  

Question for you--Regarding the Ukraine conspiracy, do we back Barr and Trump over the CIA/FBI? If AOC and Warren still the greater threat to our system of government then musn't we?