12-13-2019, 05:03 PM
(12-13-2019, 03:53 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Your posts have done a great job illustrating the problem. In addition to throwing around tired stereotypes and generalization, you're out right promoting a straw-man and refusing to broaden your perspective beyond what you're entrenched in.
I did not use a single "tired stereotype or generalization".
(12-13-2019, 03:53 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: The reality is "well spoken" and "articulate" are often times used exclusively for black people by white people in situations where it would be a given that the individual can speak clearly.
"Often times"? That is my point exactly. The claim that the terms "articulate" and "well spoken" are only used by whites to describe blacks is total BS.
(12-13-2019, 03:53 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: There is no actual outcry claiming intentional racism on Bloomberg's part or when Obama was called "the first articulate... African American candidate" by Biden. The dialogue has been on how the language has been used in the past and the unintentional meaning behind it and then how we can learn from it and be better.
There was a huge outcry. That is what Bloomberg had to apologize. And as for how we can "learn from it and make it better" I asked what I should say instead of "articulate" or "well spoken" and the only answer I got was that the term was never used unless discussing a specific speech. That makes no sense at all. And it also does not explain why a black person is not offended if I say "Nice speech" instead of complimenting them on being "well spoken"
(12-13-2019, 03:53 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: One of the worst responses to addressing implicit bias is to suggest that addressing it causes more problems. It doesn't. That's just a intellectually lazy response.
But it does cause problems. Bloomberg is going to be running for President. Now he is being painted as a racist or ignorant fr complimenting Corey Booker.
(12-13-2019, 03:53 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I've recommended that people read any of the links I posted, but particularly the Times article. It's clear no one has, and it seems like the reason why is that people do not care about educating themselves on this issue. They'd rather just spit out what they've believed based on their experiences and not those of anyone else.
Now you are the one using BS generalizations. I read the article. Check out this quote
"Do not use it as the primary attribute of note for a black person if you would not use it for a similarly talented, skilled or eloquent white person."
So since I use the term "articulate" all the time to describe white people I should be able to use it to describe a black person. But if I do then apparently that black person will be offended. Martin Luther King is considered to be a great orator, but it is against the rules for me to call him "articulate" or "well spoken"? That is just absurd.
White people need to work on not being racist, but black people have to work on not blaming everything on racism.
