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(12-13-2019, 05:03 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I did not use a single "tired stereotype or generalization".




"Often times"?  That is my point exactly.  The claim that the terms "articulate" and "well spoken" are only used by whites to describe blacks is total BS.



There was a huge outcry.  That is what Bloomberg had to apologize.  And as for how we can "learn from it and make it better" I asked what I should say instead of "articulate" or "well spoken" and the only answer I got was that the term was never used unless discussing a specific speech.  That makes no sense at all.  And it also does not explain why a black person is not offended if I say "Nice speech" instead of complimenting them on being "well spoken" 



But it does cause problems.  Bloomberg is going to be running for President.  Now he is being painted as a racist or ignorant fr complimenting Corey Booker.



Now you are the one using BS generalizations.  I read the article.  Check out this quote

"Do not use it as the primary attribute of note for a black person if you would not use it for a similarly talented, skilled or eloquent white person."

So since I use the term "articulate" all the time to describe white people I should be able to use it to describe a black person.  But if I do then apparently that black person will be offended.  Martin Luther King is considered to be a great orator, but it is against the rules for me to call him "articulate" or "well spoken"?  That is just absurd.

White people need to work on not being racist, but black people have to work on not blaming everything on racism.

Yikes. You start with claiming you made no generalizations and then end with one.

You’re wrong in your continued insistence that Bloomberg is being attacked as a racist, as no credible voice has called him that. The conversation has been on having a conversation on how words have meaning to certain constituencies.

As to your question about what words to say? The word articulate means “ having or showing the ability to speak fluently and coherently”. Well spoken means to speak in an educated manner.

An average adult with a secondary education should be articulate and well spoken. I have a hard time believing you use either phrase on a regular basis to describe white people, but you could, as others have said, specifically compliment the speech itself and it’s contents rather than point out that the person is capable of stringing together words coherently as a compliment.

“Incredible speech, that point you made about Jeffersonian politics really resonated with me”

“Senator Thompson is a great orator”

“Tina has a commanding presence when she speaks”


I’m glad you read the article after I suggested it. Hopefully you’ll earnestly consider the authors point .