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We Hit Peak 2019
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(12-19-2019, 02:49 PM)fredtoast Wrote: How can you quote a professor of African American studies from an Ivy League school saying “Al Sharpton is incredibly articulate,”, and deny that their culture promotes improper grammar.  it was such a problem that schools started setting up special programs specifically for black children who were raised speaking African American Vernacular English.

You can argue all you want to about "style", but the fact is that proper grammar is still a necessary part of functioning in 99% of the jobs that require communicating with clients, other businesses/agencies, co-workers, or supervisors/management.

By perpetuating a belief that black vernacular patterns are inherently improper, you're suggesting that black culture is inherently subordinate to or less than mainstream (white) culture. Your argument is flawed as you (1) suggest uniformity in Black America and (2) suggest that dialects are "improper" because they differ from one promoted by the majority. 

Some segments of Black culture promote the use of their own vernacular patterns and dialects, but those dialects also follow their own rules related to grammar. 

Again, this is the whole point. No one is calling any one racist. People are just asking others to understand how they are viewing or judging other cultures by comparing them to their own or to one that is promoted by the majority. That is what causes people to overuse the word "articulate" or the phrase "well spoken" when describing black people. 
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