Impeachment Hearings

[Belsnickel]

(12-19-2019, 06:16 PM)hollodero Wrote: I guess you're closer to all that and probably right - turnout might be more important than persuading some light conservatives. But I always wondered if the problem with Hillary really was her being moderate. Baggage aside (though boy she had too much of that too), I feel her problem was that she was emblematic for the establishment, preselected to become president, it was determined that it was her turn. They just forgot to tell Bernie, aside from hin she ran pretty much unopposed - no Warren, Booker, Biden, no one seemd daring to stand in her way. That's not sparking enthusiasm, and I'm not so sure her policy positions are to blame for that.

Buttigieg would also be a moderate candidate, but I guess he could get lots of enthusiasm still. Or couldn't he?

Those were, indeed, all problems with Clinton. However, keep in mind that both Clinton and Trump came to that race with a lot of baggage. One represented an outsider, one the establishment. Moderate Democrats are the establishment right now, so any moderate candidate will still represent what has been going on for years in the party. My position, though, is also based on my knowledge of the party and what has happened since 2016. I was involved in the 2017-2019 elections here in Virginia and got a good idea of the pulse of things. I'm in a rural Democratic area and there is still a ton of disappointment with the way the party is embracing moderate candidates.

As for Buttigieg, he is a moderate candidate, but he won't make it through the primaries. He's pretty in line with Germany's FDP, to be quite honest. But he's facing too many problems right now.