Imho, here's the scary thing.

[Dill]

(12-27-2019, 05:26 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Ok so it would s ok to criticize these organizations. That’s all I was suggesting.

Nice quote from Bobby. Who was the AG when they wiretapped MLK?

LOL Was it Brownell? I know the surveillance began in 1955.

Bobby, the AG who did the most to expand Civil Rights enforcement, signed off on limited phone surveillance in '64 I believe, following a presentation of "evidence" King was a national security threat. Hoover had already been breaking the bounds of legality for years, though. We may get the whole story in 2027, when the COINTELPRO docs from the Church Commission are unsealed.

As far as criticizing organizations--the nature and quality thereof still counts. The problem I have with Trump's criticisms of the FBI and CIA is that they are 1) mostly false, and 2) designed to de-legitimate them as institutions, thereby enhancing Trump's demagogic power. 

And it is working. We have a president of the United States effectively spreading conspiracy theories about agencies which cannot effectively defend themselves at a time when only a bare majority of voters see the propaganda and its consequences for what they are.