So what’s next?

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(06-09-2020, 10:41 AM)Dill Wrote: More attention to hiring might obviate "more training."

Hire people who don't need to be "trained" not to point weapons at children.

I don't think you were posting in P&R back when I made the point, several times, that LEO's back east are woefully under-trained.  Right now you're getting exactly what you asked for in this post with many, if not most, departments.  The focus right now in those cases is largely on the hiring process.  Once hired they are not trained properly.  As for the circumstance you described, you cannot know how a person is going to respond in an extreme situation like the current protests, riots and looting until it happens.  You can certainly weed out individuals who are obviously unsuited, but there is no possible way to weed out everyone who will react badly under those circumstances.  Also, such circumstances are exceedingly rare, so you have very few chances to find this out.  

In a combat environment, the unsuitable people tend to die quickly, so the military suffers far less from this problem.  In law enforcement, this is not the case.  I know things may look patently obvious to you, and others, watching these situations from the comfort of you couch, it's quite another thing to be immersed in them for twelve plus hours at a time.  Even a generally good officer can succumb to fatigue and stress and make a poor decision.  Guess what though, more, and better, training, will help alleviate that.  Defunding will definitely not help achieve what you profess to desire.

(06-09-2020, 11:23 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: It might, but you know what also needs funding? A well staffed and trained HR department to do that hiring.

In addition, officers will be more likely to turn to their weapon if they are not confident enough in their abilities to de-escalate a situation and/or go hands on with someone. Those things require training, a lot of it, and from what I have heard from officers is that while these things are touched on they aren't given nearly enough focus.

I see you watched Donut's video on this subject.  You should have posted it, as certain people would lend it more credence if you posted it rather than my doing so.  But you, and he, are absolutely correct.  Here's the video in question for anyone who cares to watch.