So what’s next?

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(06-10-2020, 11:06 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I don't think you were posting in P&R back when I made the point, several times, that LEO's back east are woefully under-trained.  Right now you're getting exactly what you asked for in this post with many, if not most, departments.  The focus right now in those cases is largely on the hiring process.  Once hired they are not trained properly.  As for the circumstance you described, you cannot know how a person is going to respond in an extreme situation like the current protests, riots and looting until it happens.  You can certainly weed out individuals who are obviously unsuited, but there is no possible way to weed out everyone who will react badly under those circumstances.  Also, such circumstances are exceedingly rare, so you have very few chances to find this out.  

In a combat environment, the unsuitable people tend to die quickly, so the military suffers far less from this problem.  In law enforcement, this is not the case.  I know things may look patently obvious to you, and others, watching these situations from the comfort of you couch, it's quite another thing to be immersed in them for twelve plus hours at a time.  Even a generally good officer can succumb to fatigue and stress and make a poor decision.  Guess what though, more, and better, training, will help alleviate that.  Defunding will definitely not help achieve what you profess to desire.

LOL I'm not sure "unsuitable people tend to die quickly in a combat environment," though they certainly increase the risk for their team members, innocent civilians and everyone around them.

I understand law enforcement is hard and appreciate your contributions on this topic. While I don't see myself pointing weapons at children, I don't assume that I could keep discipline while people are throwing rocks and spitting on me. Not without a lot of training, anyway. I agree that we can weed out some or many that are unsuited, but not all.  Failure to do that often explains individual cases (e.g., Tamir Rice).