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Ephesians 6:5
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(06-23-2020, 04:05 PM)Dill Wrote: Yes, a left-Hegelian humanism.  God is "externalized" and projected outwards, first on to fetishized objects, then into the heavens, in a kind of self-estrangement or alienation of "Man's" own inner values.

In his version of religious history, "Man" gradually comes to recognize himself as the source of these externally projected values. Jesus is a big step in this process (recognizing God within) which culminates in "man's" full recognition of himself as source/author, and a "liberation" from superstition. So critique of religion is process of self-recognition and re-integration of alienated value.

Marx has an interesting critique of this in The German Ideology, where he argues that Feuerbach's conception of man is itself "theological," and a historical form of "bourgeois consciousness."

Interesting that Marx described it as bourgeois consciousness. I had a conversation with a couple of colleagues a few months back where that topic, or the basic premise associated with it, came up. There is a movement by some theologians involved with the current academic circuit that are leaning more and more in this direction, whether it be an archetypal model of explanation, a increasingly meta-spiritual definition of belief, etc. 

I could envision some describing that shift as a "bourgeois redefining" of traditional religious belief, although I will say that it is much more in line with what I believe to be far more precise representation of historical origin and a much more logical, honest position than that of a "literal God."





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Ephesians 6:5 - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 06-21-2020, 01:31 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - NATI BENGALS - 06-21-2020, 10:21 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - GMDino - 06-21-2020, 10:25 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Nately120 - 06-21-2020, 10:51 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - bfine32 - 06-21-2020, 11:26 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - bfine32 - 06-21-2020, 02:01 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Dill - 06-21-2020, 04:14 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Benton - 06-21-2020, 12:12 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Benton - 06-21-2020, 02:19 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - GMDino - 06-21-2020, 03:58 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Benton - 06-21-2020, 08:53 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Lucidus - 06-22-2020, 07:04 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Arturo Bandini - 06-22-2020, 07:15 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Lucidus - 06-22-2020, 07:30 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Dill - 06-23-2020, 03:50 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Lucidus - 06-23-2020, 03:54 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Dill - 06-23-2020, 04:05 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Lucidus - 06-23-2020, 04:32 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Benton - 06-23-2020, 10:42 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Arturo Bandini - 06-23-2020, 11:43 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Benton - 06-23-2020, 11:58 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Arturo Bandini - 06-23-2020, 12:37 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Benton - 06-23-2020, 12:50 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Arturo Bandini - 06-23-2020, 12:55 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - samhain - 06-24-2020, 05:26 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - michaelsean - 06-26-2020, 10:36 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Dill - 06-26-2020, 12:14 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - samhain - 06-24-2020, 05:17 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - michaelsean - 06-24-2020, 09:33 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - samhain - 06-25-2020, 05:28 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Dill - 06-21-2020, 04:10 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - fredtoast - 06-21-2020, 12:14 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Arturo Bandini - 06-22-2020, 05:07 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Arturo Bandini - 06-22-2020, 05:01 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - michaelsean - 06-22-2020, 09:40 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - michaelsean - 06-22-2020, 12:52 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - michaelsean - 06-22-2020, 01:31 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - michaelsean - 06-22-2020, 02:04 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - michaelsean - 06-22-2020, 01:38 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Belsnickel - 06-22-2020, 02:10 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - michaelsean - 06-22-2020, 02:13 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Belsnickel - 06-22-2020, 02:24 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Truck_1_0_1_ - 06-22-2020, 02:41 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Lucidus - 06-22-2020, 03:35 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Arturo Bandini - 06-22-2020, 03:49 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Lucidus - 06-22-2020, 04:14 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Arturo Bandini - 06-22-2020, 04:47 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Lucidus - 06-22-2020, 04:52 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Arturo Bandini - 06-22-2020, 07:06 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Lucidus - 06-22-2020, 07:23 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Truck_1_0_1_ - 06-22-2020, 04:05 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - fredtoast - 06-22-2020, 04:59 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Lucidus - 06-22-2020, 05:27 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Arturo Bandini - 06-22-2020, 07:12 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - bfine32 - 06-23-2020, 08:48 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Arturo Bandini - 06-24-2020, 09:08 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Lucidus - 06-25-2020, 01:45 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Arturo Bandini - 06-25-2020, 04:24 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - fredtoast - 06-25-2020, 07:57 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Dill - 06-25-2020, 11:42 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Arturo Bandini - 06-26-2020, 03:03 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - michaelsean - 06-26-2020, 10:43 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - fredtoast - 06-26-2020, 11:26 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Dill - 06-26-2020, 12:10 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Truck_1_0_1_ - 06-26-2020, 11:13 AM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Lucidus - 06-28-2020, 02:51 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Dill - 06-28-2020, 04:49 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Belsnickel - 06-26-2020, 09:15 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - bfine32 - 06-26-2020, 10:07 PM
RE: Ephesians 6:5 - Belsnickel - 06-27-2020, 12:37 PM

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