08-14-2020, 01:33 PM
(08-14-2020, 01:28 PM)hollodero Wrote: In my defense, I am focusing on the presidency for the election is about the presidency. I don't want to be snarky, it's just that there are elections for the house, the senate, for governor etc. where I would understand better why you want to avoid Democrats. As for the presidency though, for me it's hard to fathom to be more afraid of president Biden than of president Trump, who along many other imho huge issues once and again shows that he is not a believer in democracy, the rule of law etc. and wants to undermine it as good as he can.
Which is one reason why I declared your case of how we all should fear president Biden as underwhelming to me. Of course that verdict also stems from your being afraid of a moderate candidate because his party might turn to extremes - while when it comes to the actually extreme candidate, you claim that this is merely a small tide and all those extremes will just disappear in his party again as soon as he is gone. I just have a different take on that.
I think what you're saying is we should fear a president Trump more than we should fear a president Biden. This is an argument I can understand. I'd have zero concern over a president Biden with a GOP controlled Congress.
Quote:But I probably should not interject too much, on the grounds that I also just have no issue with stricter gun laws, eg. with universal background checks or with gun permits handed out after some kind of aptitude check. But that's mainly me being brought up and socialized in a society where we regard guns differently, and US gun laws aren't exactly my cup of tea. On this issue, you have my acceptance regarding your take, but not my empathic understanding, especially regarding the importance of it.
He's already discussed confiscation, and the Democratic party would certainly have no issue with that. As we've discussed before, Europe has a very limited history of civilian access to weaponry outside of Switzerland. Also, as I've stated before, the Framers used Europe as an example of why civilian firearm ownership was important, as the lack of it in Europe allowed oppression and totalitarian rule, historically, if not at that exact point and time.