08-14-2020, 06:33 PM
(08-14-2020, 11:15 AM)hollodero Wrote: No, no need to compare, it's just that I introduced the concept of marginalized hispanic women that under the introduced logic might deserve a similar recognition and you responded with a list of grievances black women have to endure. It's an implied comparison. My stance of maybe better not committing to a candidate's race or gender is largely based on the assumption that these implied comparisons are not the ideal way to look at things in the first place.
I mean, your argument seems to be black women had it worst and the issue of explicit and implicit racism is on top of minds at this moment, so they deserve a black female VP, and while the former might very well be true I still would not see the latter as a necessary consequence.
I am not radical within that thought. I would have found it perfectly fine if Biden had said I need a VP, I found a highly qualified person, that has merits from A to Z and also as a black women has an unique understanding of the grievances blacks and women have to face. I feel that would have been better, very much including for Kamala Harris. It's the early commitment to a black women that kind of "bothered" me. Or at least I have some questions about that approach.
As for the meme, I agree with your perspective on that, I don't see these instances as a particularly compelling reason to pick a black woman for VP. I can't really argue against a different viewpoint on that though.
I hear where you're coming from. The list wan't intended as a way to one-up on the marginalization scale but rather to explain why I applied the marginalization label as I intended for marginalized and history of elected offices to be two different elements.
My main argument for a Black VP was the BLM movement/George Floyd protests. Biden then locked himself in by saying it would be a woman.
With the meme, I was using it as an example of the attacks Black women face in society, not a reason for a Black woman being VP.