Biden's Press Conference!

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(08-31-2020, 11:17 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: He didn't really have a platform before, but I get your point. 


Here you couldn't be more wrong, and the Dems own strategy is why.  99% of the violence has occurred in areas run heavily, if not exclusively, by Dems.  The poster child for the riots, Portland, is probably the most left leaning area of the country.  When Trump sent in Federal law enforcement to end over two months worth of nightly rioting the left leaning media and politicians tripped over themselves in a rush to label him a despot who was suppressing the people.  When the Feds left the riots continues nigh unabated, and in fact have gotten worse.  So, I think you're looking at this issue from a partisan, "I wish this were true", point of view.  When a far left pundit like Don Lemon realizes these riots are a horrible look for the Dems it's got to be readily apparent.

As I said a long time ago, the Dems really painted themselves into a corner.  By ignoring the not infrequent violence and dismissing concerns about the "largely peaceful" protests they put their fate in the hands of criminal rioters, looters and arsonists.  They also, along with the media who largely excused or mitigated the behavior, significantly enabled them. It is here that your side of this position becomes inconsistent, and thus no longer viable from a logical point of view.  You can't claim Trump emboldens "x" people to act in "x" way and then completely ignore the culpability of Dems engaging in the exact same behavior, just not in as bombastic a fashion.  This riots are severely damaging the Dems chances, they won't be forgotten soon, and the Dems know it.

Polling done at the beginning of June and end of July put the majority of Americans in support of the on going protests, despite the narrative Trump and Barr pushed around Portland during July. There also hasn't been a significant shift in Biden's support during this time. His average lead has actually gone up 1% since before Memorial Day. I do not see evidence to support your premise. I think there's merit behind your argument, but I do not see that coming true. I also think it downplays the responsibility, justified or not, that voters ultimately place on the President.

I want to point out that I do not think I'd said "Trump emboldens" and "Democrats are not culpable" (or similar rhetoric) in any of this.