09-01-2020, 04:37 PM
(08-29-2020, 01:55 AM)Dill Wrote: Well I appreciate your going into detail to explain your views.
No problem. It's the way political discourse SHOULD happen, IMO. BTW, I apologize for not responding sooner. I was celebrating my 6th wedding anniversary with my wife over the weekend.
(08-29-2020, 01:55 AM)Dill Wrote: You didn't think MY definition was somehow "changed" or "edited," did you? The Dictionary.com definition you used is distilled from the one I articulated.I think you're definition was not really a definition, IMO. I think you were making the argument that 'race' was not a social construct but rather a biological one. That's a different argument and while it COULD have a bearing on whether or not something or someone was racist, I don't think it really matters in this discussion.
(08-29-2020, 01:55 AM)Dill Wrote: It does not support a claim that any and every race-based selection for a position is automatically "racist."Are you talking about my definition or yours? Mine certainly does support that claim.
(08-29-2020, 01:55 AM)Dill Wrote: I don't see how Biden could be guilty of either version.I disagree. Though Biden only said he 'preferred' a certain type of candidate and didn't outright saying he was ONLY looking at women of color, had he done the latter, he most certainly would have been guilty of expressing his "prejudice" towards the "particular racial or ethnic group" that is commonly referred to as 'whites'.
He didn't choose Kamala to express his "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism" against her "particular racial or ethnic group"--rather the opposite.
(08-29-2020, 01:55 AM)Dill Wrote: If choosing her was discrimination against whites, that would suggest that choosing whites discriminates against blacks.
Uh, no. Discriminating against whites is racism.
But, if you want, I could make the argument by not looking for the best person for the job, only the best black woman, that Biden is saying that a black woman could NOT be the best person. I'd rather not make that convoluted an argument at this point, though.
(08-29-2020, 01:55 AM)Dill Wrote: If there had never been a white vp candidate in 250 years of US history and he said "now's the time," I would not think that racist either--unless he did it to "antagonize" the man's race or ethnic group.
Well, at least you'd be consistent.