09-07-2020, 12:34 PM
(09-07-2020, 12:08 PM)bfine32 Wrote: You can actually read that first line you just typed and say "yep candidate's fault"? History of the forums have taught me that you and many others on the Left are no fan of personal responsibility, but this is a new benchmark.
What you are saying is: "The Left is so weak-minded that the announcement of a candidate with views different than theirs causes them to react with violence". It's a similar train of thought that leads Biden to say shit like if you don't vote for me "you ain't black."
Let's concede that Trump is racist, because honestly you need all the concessions in this discussion you can get. There were many openly racist Presidential Candidates in the pass whose supporters didn't get physically attacked, so what changed?
Please say society.
Openly racist presidents weren't attacked for their racism in the past because the country as whole was racist and Blacks had little political or cultural power. "Society" moved left. That's what changed.
One of your characteristic rhetorical moves is to substitute what Trump or some other rightist specifically says or does with the most general description possible. "Different views," that's all--as if it doesn't matter at all what those views are. You yourself cannot even repeat them specifically, though in the very next line you are willing to "concede" Trump is racist. "The announcement of a candidate with racist views causes some to react with violence"--would be a more accurate way of describing the "leftist violence" you want to single out.
How is it that the guy who disconnects Trump's actions from the criticism raining down on him FOR THOSE ACTIONS is suddenly scolding "leftists" about personal responsibility? You said good bye to that yourself moment you started finding other reasons for the nation's reaction to Trump, and the increase in right wing violence over the last four years, than what the guy actually says and does.
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