Biden In The Debates......

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(09-15-2020, 09:58 AM)Mickeypoo Wrote: 1.  I'm ok with what he said after her testimony.  Right or wrong is up to each individual.  I watched the whole testimony.  It was ridiculous.  Zero evidence and zero info, other than feelings and emotion; which I believe someone in a different post said doesn't count.
2.  Nope
3.  Great, end this lock down BS and open fully.  Thankfully my kids are at least in school 4 days a week.  I prefer 5.
4.  Agreed.
It wasn't Trump supporters who just tried to execute 2 innocent police officers in Compton.
It's not Trump supporters blocking Hospital entrances, calling cops pigs and saying they hope they f!@#$%G die. 
It's not Trump supporters rioting and acting like rapid, neanderthal animals.
It's not Trump supporters tearing down monuments.
It's not Trump supporters who support Cancel Culture.
It's not Trump supporters fomenting the hate against police.
It's not Trump supporters who are so mentally weak they cannot even handle a Conservative speaking at a College.

Whatever, I wasn't even going to post here anymore, but the shooting of those 2 cops in LA, the videos that were made laughing about it and the animals at the Hospital blocking entrances and saying they hope they die was just the most disgusting display of human depravity I have personally ever witnessed.

I am not trying to be hostile towards you.  The 2 cops getting shot in LA just has me really frustrated and truly disgusted beyond belief.  I'm not even a huge Trump supporter, but it's disingenuous to blame everything on Trump.  Dems, Media, Hollywood and Academia pushing a completely false systemic racism/America sucks/Identity politics/Conservatives suck narrative hold plenty of the blame for the divisiveness.

Oh, and look, more "peaceful protesters" surrounding a cop car and a person jumping on it.  Awesome.  FYI......Not Trump supporters.

Thanks for responding, Mickey.  All the extra gives me some ideal what you think the stakes are in this election.

I don't think you really believe right/wrong is up to each individual. That's why we have laws. Not sure which testimony you are referring to on 1. There is more than one rape/assault accusation against Trump. Even if there were "zero evidence," it is surely "neanderthal" to suggest a woman is too ugly to rape, even if you are not a role model to the nation's youth. Puzzling so many conservatives accept this behavior.

I went back and checked the bleach comment. He and his doctors had been discussing the effectiveness of bleach earlier. Trump only speaks of injecting "disinfectant" after his comment about using ultra violet rays. So he doesn't DIRECTLY encourage research into bleach injection, just "disinfectant" injection. You agree that happened, right?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE (start at :34). That suggests an incredible ignorance of human biology and medicine, and incompetence in someone in charge of marshaling national resources in the face of a pandemic.

No one is saying Trump supporters shot 2 cops blocked the entrance to their hospital, and no one blames "everything" on Trump. They do blame him for what he actually does, though. And reference to "rioting" does not make a good counter; the man who throws gas on the fire will not fix that.

Right wing media has been pushing the "Dems,-media,-Hollywood-and-Academia*-pushing-a-completely-false-systemic-racism/America-sucks/Identity politics-conservatives-suck-narrative" narrative for decades now. That seems an "everything" sort of blame. And it only holds if your primary sources of info are right wing media. Inside that safe space, HISTORY is cancelled and there is no "fact-checking" claims about systemic racism. In it, the shooting of two cops in LA can expand without resistance into all that is wrong with country that Trump can fix. No one wonders--"so why is all this happening on his watch? Why wasn't it already fixed?" as Tucker and Hannity show reel after reel of "omg cities burning!!"  No one who thinks fact checking important stays in that environment for long. 

In that bubble, one can complain of "cancel culture" with no sense of contradiction while at the same time calling for boycotts of Walmart, Gillette, Pepsi, Starbucks, Nordstroms, Nike and anyone the dear leader finds offensive. One can make rioters and police shooters the face of the Dem party while denying any resonance at all between Trump and the white supremacists who march in direct support of him and his policies. One can affirm the all importance of the US Constitution and the Bible while denying Trump's constant violation of their principles. Yes, it's Trump supporters doing that. 

In consequence, dialogue becomes very difficult. People don't have to understand and work out their differences. They are encouraged not to learn about the other side, to listen to the other's reasons.


*The religious right in the US developed partly in response to the rise of research universities, so that complaint has been around since the 1870s