09-15-2020, 10:59 PM
(09-15-2020, 09:17 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: So did Dr. Birx. And Trump didn’t correct her for taking him literally. What are the context clues that suggests he was speaking allegorically? I’m surprised that a guy who says exactly what he means so rarely, if ever, means what he says.
Poor choice of words on my part. I just mean it seems much more likely that he was thinking out loud and outside of the box. Maybe he thought there could be something that could be injected to help get rid of Covid. My 9 year old would know not to inject "bleach". All jokes and Trump hate aside, I just cannot believe that ANY adult would literally think that that would be ok. Kinda like the whole "there are good people on both sides" got twisted. I was watching that live and as soon as he said that my very first thought was oh crap, I know what you mean, but the media is going to twist the crap out of that.
Despite steps to contain the pandemic and protect the high risk we have almost 200,000 dead. What do you think will happen when we stop trying to contain it?
But we did not protect the high risk at first. I live in NY. It has one, if not the worst death rate for elderly because of the nursing home debacle by Cuomo. We weren't the only state either. Several states failed hard on protecting the elderly in nursing homes which are, I believe, 40+% of all covid deaths. There are very few deaths of completely healthy people and even fewer kids. It is almost all elderly or people with comorbitities. Protect that group the best we can and open back up fully. I would think differently if the numbers were different and what I saw around me was different. Deaths are also starting to flatten. You also have to think of all the ancillary harm from the lock downs and if those harms outweigh the potential harms from not locking down. There is no hard evidence the lock downs did anything to help contain the virus. There has also been some very questionable reporting about the number of Covid deaths at a nationwide level.
I don’t agree with your suggestion, but I’m willing to change my mind if you have data to support current infectious disease controls. Do you?
No, just what I see in the CDC numbers, what has been reported so far, looking at the number of deaths in just NY & NJ, who it effects and just looking at the numbers over time. Plus looking at what has happened in other countries who didn't lock down vs countries that lock down.
That’s fair.
Thanks. :)
Is this in relation to asking why do we have monuments to traitors? If you take up arms or conspire with the enemy against the country their shouldn’t be monuments honoring your treason.
I was just curious what monuments were of people who were traitors, the history of the person and what made them traitors and why did we erect the monuments in the first place.
Kenny Walker, licensed and legal gun owner shot first. He has the legal right to shoot an intruder. The police have a legal right to self-defense. The police claim they announced themselves, but Walker disputes that. There is the chance he is lying. There is also the chance he really didn’t hear them when startled out of sleep at almost 1 am.
Didn't they have a legal no knock warrant? But I understand the catch 22 you (unknowingly?) pointed out which is why Rand Paul introduced the Breona Taylor legislation to abolish or limit the practice of no knock warrants.
But, as of tonight the city of Louisville has reached a settlement with her family and pledged to change police practices.
I saw that.
The police had Floyd handcuffed and in the vehicle before they removed from the vehicle and kneeled on his neck until they killed him. Floyd’s criminal history and actions that night didn’t warrant death.
I watched the whole video multiple times. Floyd was uncooperative. Wouldn't get in the car and was acting like he was on something. Turns out he had large amounts of fentanyl in his system. Don't get me wrong, what Chauvin did was awful, but the reality is that he may not have killed him. I also agree that his actions did not warrant death, but the possibility that he died from an OD is very real. I even saw one of the examiners on TV, can't remember where, but he said that if all the circumstances were unknown to him and he was just basing cause of death on what he saw in his autopsy that it would be an OD death. He said Floyds lungs were 3 times the weight they should have been. Don't take this as a defense of the police. I am just throwing out information that I believe to be accurate.
If I told you that you had an infection, but down played it so you would think it was less serious than I knew it to be and you subsequently died, I’d be guilty of malpractice. Trump is essentially guilty of malpractice, figuratively, on a national level.
I’m not okay with that and it does bother me.
I can see your point from a Dr. patient perspective, but from a keeping an entire Country from freaking out perspective is a bit of a reach for me. Look at the run of toilet paper and other supplies even though it was downplayed a bit. I'd rather have less nationwide panic. As far as any info I can find, they were still doing everything they could behind the scenes to keep the Country safe. This is just my opinion and I respect yours.
