A SCOTUS Opening

[CJD]

(09-22-2020, 01:33 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Do you honestly believe that the Democrats have been decent, civil and full of integrity? That it's only the Republicans who are pushing an agenda?

Not saying you're wrong about the Republicans but to think that about the Democrats, I mean, I just can't fathom how anyone can look at the Kavanaugh hearings or at the Trump Impeachment (just to name 2 situations) and think the Democrats were decent, civil, full of integrity and not pushing an agenda. 

The Trump impeachment was politically motivated and definitely agenda driven (basically everything in Washington is) but I don't think it was particularly absent of integrity. Many of the witnesses who alleged wrong doing were either appointed by Trump personally or worked under both Democrats and Republicans and were, purportedly, not biased. 

In fact, the only lack of integrity during the impeachment that I witnessed was on the Republicans side, where they refused to even entertain the idea during the Senate hearings, having already decided before even calling a single witness. 

Many Republican Senators even acknowledged the wrongdoing, but just didn't think it warranted removal. Susan Collins famously said she thinks Trump "Learned his lesson" because of it. What lesson that was is still to be determined (but I think the lesson he learned is he doesn't have to worry about being impeached no matter how flagrantly corrupt he behaves, because the Republican Senate will endorse literally anything he does. Which, basically, has proven to be correct even in COVID times). There were (and still are) legitimate concerns there and I know we'll disagree on that. 

The Kavanaugh hearings were vicious, no doubt. They were not civil or decent in some respects, but I don't think they sacrificed their integrity during the hearings. They just hated the pick and did not think you should put someone who has an alleged rape on their record (I know, innocent until proven guilty etc. It's still an allegation. Why not have higher standards for SCOTUS judges? Like...no rape allegations).

You may not believe Blasey Ford, but her claim was credible enough to at least investigate, even if the investigation was just for show, since Republicans had the majority anyway.

I am not a Democrat. I personally hate a lot of them. They are corporatist, neoliberal shills who sell out the American people almost as much as the Republicans do. So I have no interest in defending them.

I'm just saying they are the "heroes" by default, begrudgingly, because the Republicans just happen to be orders of magnitude worse in nearly every regard.