A SCOTUS Opening

[hollodero]

(09-23-2020, 02:37 PM)PhilHos Wrote: I know I'm conservatively-biased but I'm no Trump supporter. I don't hate the guy and I'll probably vote for him over Biden, but I recognize much of his negatives. 

Fair enough.

(09-23-2020, 02:37 PM)PhilHos Wrote: That said, I tried to look at from as unbiased a position as I could and I just didn't see enough to say Trump deserved impeachment. Much of what was listed as reasons for impeachment, the evidence for was murky and not solid enough. 

No it doesn't refute anything regarding the Ukraine situation, but them calling for his impeachment before he's even inaugurated kinda hurts their arguments, does it not?

Sure it does. I have to say though that I do not know who "them" is. Single Dems called for impeachment quite early on (and should not have done so, imho), but the party establishment as a whole did not. To me, it wasn't that much "their case" as "a case against Trump" and no one but the Dems could have made it. Their motives, imho, are not that interesting or essential to begin with.
To me the evidence was as clear cut as it gets, but hey that is a matter of perspective and I never intended to rehash those things in detail. I just feel that merely pointing to Dems hating the guy is a bit thin for a stance.

(01-27-1975, 05:57 PM)PhilHos Wrote: As to the rest of your post, no offense, hollodero, I just don't feel like rehashing the whole impeachment thing right now. My memory is too fuzzy on the details and I don't have the time to research all the finer points (I'm posting while at work).

No offense taken, I still felt like mentioning those things anyway :) Just adding this, of all the possible Trump crimes I listed only one referred to the impeachment. To add a second one still, I feel trying to intimidate a witness while testifying to congress is bordering criminality too. But sure, I do thoroughly dislike the guy and make no secret about that, so my views on all that might appear tainted.