A SCOTUS Opening

[Dill]

(09-23-2020, 12:44 PM)PhilHos Wrote: I disagree. The impeachment was about getting rid of Trump and not because he did "bad things" but because he was Trump and Democrats hate that he was elected.

Maybe if Democrats decided not to discuss impeachment or how to remove Trump from the White House from the moment he was elected, you could argue the impeachment was about the "bad things" Trump had done.

Thanks for the response, Phil.

When the Dems wrote up the charges of impeachment, they could not list "because Trump" and "we hate that he was elected."

They had to have evidence of abuse of power, such as obstruction of an investigation into his own conduct, and an attempt to use foreign aid to Ukraine in a quid pro quo. Those are "bad things." 

The Senate decided not to impeach "because Trump"--because Trump was their guy, and their base did not care if Trump did what he was accused of. I.e., they did not care if Trump did "bad things." Or they said what Trump did was not bad things.

Once free of impeachment, Trump picked up where he left off. He fired whistleblowers and even an uninvolved family member in Vindeman's case.  He set about intervening in friends' court cases and sentences. He continued to attack the press for doing its job--most especially when they were "biased against power."  He continues to intervene in any government agency he can to punish those who don't support him and to maximize his chances of re-election. His interventions in the CDC and the Post Office have been especially concerning. His DOJ is replacing prosecutors investigating trump financial dealings.

I ask you why these manifest actions--all on record--should be dismissed because some Democrats wanted to impeach Trump early on? 

This is what I mean by agreeing about "bad things." If they occur, then we have to be in a position to decide whether the bad things are caused by people, and if so then which people and to what degree. The country is broken now because not enough people can agree on what bad things are.