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The big "C" word
(11-12-2020, 02:05 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Bel, you're much smarter than to actually believe that.  However, on that note, the lower courts continue to thumb their nose at the Heller decision, so even if a law is found to be unconstitutional almost identical laws can survive as long as the states enacting them continue to fight for them in court.  See the recent New York City case that they fought for tooth and nail until the SCOTUS granted cert and then they quickly amended the law in an obvious admission that they were 100% wrong the entire time.  The deep blue states are playing games with people's constitutional rights to score lame political points and I'm tired of it.

I'm a systems/procedure/institutional guy. I trust in our institutions more than I do any ideology. It's why I have such a problem with Trump because he threatens our institutions. Anyway, as much as I may say "horseshit" to plenty of court decisions, I trust in their role in the process.

All of that being said; lower courts ignoring Heller is a problem, but don't act like it is just the deep blue states that play those games. This is why I don't get deep into the 2A community, because the single-issue focus frustrates me to no end.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR
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The big "C" word - Belsnickel - 11-09-2020, 09:12 PM
RE: The big "C" word - BmorePat87 - 11-09-2020, 09:22 PM
RE: The big "C" word - bfine32 - 11-09-2020, 09:22 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Benton - 11-09-2020, 09:54 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Bengalzona - 11-09-2020, 10:00 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Belsnickel - 11-09-2020, 10:05 PM
RE: The big "C" word - GMDino - 11-09-2020, 11:57 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Benton - 11-09-2020, 10:57 PM
RE: The big "C" word - michaelsean - 11-09-2020, 11:14 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Benton - 11-09-2020, 11:55 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Benton - 11-10-2020, 12:08 AM
RE: The big "C" word - bfine32 - 11-09-2020, 11:09 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Benton - 11-09-2020, 11:51 PM
RE: The big "C" word - bfine32 - 11-09-2020, 11:55 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Benton - 11-09-2020, 11:57 PM
RE: The big "C" word - bfine32 - 11-10-2020, 12:00 AM
RE: The big "C" word - Benton - 11-10-2020, 12:05 AM
RE: The big "C" word - bfine32 - 11-10-2020, 12:08 AM
RE: The big "C" word - Benton - 11-10-2020, 12:10 AM
RE: The big "C" word - bfine32 - 11-10-2020, 12:15 AM
RE: The big "C" word - michaelsean - 11-09-2020, 11:55 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Goalpost - 11-09-2020, 11:18 PM
RE: The big "C" word - BmorePat87 - 11-09-2020, 11:24 PM
RE: The big "C" word - BmorePat87 - 11-09-2020, 11:36 PM
RE: The big "C" word - BmorePat87 - 11-09-2020, 11:44 PM
RE: The big "C" word - bfine32 - 11-09-2020, 11:37 PM
RE: The big "C" word - SunsetBengal - 11-09-2020, 11:55 PM
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RE: The big "C" word - GMDino - 11-10-2020, 12:14 AM
RE: The big "C" word - bfine32 - 11-10-2020, 12:21 AM
RE: The big "C" word - Benton - 11-10-2020, 12:38 AM
RE: The big "C" word - Belsnickel - 11-10-2020, 08:57 AM
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RE: The big "C" word - Nately120 - 11-10-2020, 10:11 AM
RE: The big "C" word - BmorePat87 - 11-10-2020, 10:35 AM
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RE: The big "C" word - GMDino - 11-10-2020, 10:57 AM
RE: The big "C" word - GMDino - 11-10-2020, 11:04 AM
RE: The big "C" word - BmorePat87 - 11-10-2020, 11:20 AM
RE: The big "C" word - GMDino - 11-10-2020, 11:28 AM
RE: The big "C" word - Dill - 11-11-2020, 12:31 PM
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RE: The big "C" word - Belsnickel - 11-10-2020, 03:57 PM
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RE: The big "C" word - GMDino - 11-10-2020, 05:38 PM
RE: The big "C" word - GMDino - 11-10-2020, 05:42 PM
RE: The big "C" word - bfine32 - 11-10-2020, 05:46 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Nately120 - 11-10-2020, 05:48 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Bengalzona - 11-11-2020, 12:39 AM
RE: The big "C" word - NATI BENGALS - 11-11-2020, 12:55 AM
RE: The big "C" word - Dill - 11-11-2020, 12:53 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Dill - 11-11-2020, 01:18 PM
RE: The big "C" word - hollodero - 11-11-2020, 03:49 PM
RE: The big "C" word - hollodero - 11-11-2020, 04:57 PM
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RE: The big "C" word - Dill - 11-12-2020, 09:10 PM
RE: The big "C" word - GMDino - 11-13-2020, 09:18 AM
RE: The big "C" word - Bengalzona - 11-11-2020, 07:15 PM
RE: The big "C" word - bfine32 - 11-11-2020, 08:50 PM
RE: The big "C" word - fredtoast - 11-11-2020, 01:37 PM
RE: The big "C" word - GMDino - 11-11-2020, 09:42 PM
RE: The big "C" word - BmorePat87 - 11-11-2020, 10:17 PM
RE: The big "C" word - BigPapaKain - 11-12-2020, 08:40 AM
RE: The big "C" word - Nately120 - 11-11-2020, 10:37 PM
RE: The big "C" word - TheLeonardLeap - 11-11-2020, 11:43 PM
RE: The big "C" word - NATI BENGALS - 11-12-2020, 02:13 AM
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RE: The big "C" word - Nately120 - 11-12-2020, 10:20 AM
RE: The big "C" word - BmorePat87 - 11-12-2020, 01:25 PM
RE: The big "C" word - GMDino - 11-12-2020, 01:43 PM
RE: The big "C" word - fredtoast - 11-12-2020, 01:49 PM
RE: The big "C" word - BmorePat87 - 11-12-2020, 01:51 PM
RE: The big "C" word - bfine32 - 11-12-2020, 01:53 PM
RE: The big "C" word - fredtoast - 11-12-2020, 02:02 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Benton - 11-12-2020, 05:49 PM
RE: The big "C" word - fredtoast - 11-12-2020, 02:22 PM
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RE: The big "C" word - fredtoast - 11-12-2020, 06:39 PM
RE: The big "C" word - fredtoast - 11-12-2020, 06:40 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Nately120 - 11-12-2020, 01:34 PM
RE: The big "C" word - BmorePat87 - 11-12-2020, 01:40 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Nately120 - 11-12-2020, 01:44 PM
RE: The big "C" word - BmorePat87 - 11-12-2020, 01:53 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Dill - 11-12-2020, 09:28 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Nately120 - 11-12-2020, 10:31 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Belsnickel - 11-12-2020, 01:53 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Belsnickel - 11-12-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: The big "C" word - fredtoast - 11-12-2020, 02:18 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Belsnickel - 11-12-2020, 02:13 PM
RE: The big "C" word - Belsnickel - 11-12-2020, 02:31 PM
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