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(08-10-2017, 05:05 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It's a mentality that is developed around here. Bodine struggled mightily as a rookie; a common thing for an O-lineman. He has improved to the point that he is no longer a liability at C and was often graded out as one of our best Olinemen last year. None of this matters. Folks remember the rookie year and will not forget.

I can easily see a similar phenomenon with Ced. Last year was his rookie year due to injury and he struggled mightily, as many rookie Olinemen do. If he improves to anything less than Pro Bowl caliber; he will be considered the worst LT in the league by many around here. It has already started.

Please stop this silly trend of giving everyone 2-3-4 "rookie" years. Kirkpatrick was "basically a rookie" for four years, Dennard was a rookie for three years (or is it four now? has he lost rookie status yet?), McCarron was a rookie for two years, etc, etc. Now Ogbuehi is a rookie for two years. Do any other teams give all their players 2 or 3 rookie years?

If it was actually their rookie year, they are a rookie. If it isn't, they aren't. Were they eligible to win the Rookie of the Year award? No? Then they aren't in their rookie year.

Also saying he struggled mightily is the largest understatement of how horrible Ogbuehi was. I have never seen a worse offensive tackle before, and I have watched Dennis Roland start.

(08-10-2017, 10:44 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: But then they should trust you who knows less than them that makes a lot of sense

Obviously. My NFL trophycase is just as full as Mike Brown's, I have as many postseason wins as a HC as Marvin Lewis does, and I have designed as many top-10 offenses as Ken Zampese has.