08-04-2015, 03:43 PM
(08-04-2015, 01:35 PM)djs7685 Wrote: Not a Cyborg fan, she just happens to be very, very good.
Nice job showing why my logic is so "flawed", great arguments you have there
I posted a bunch of facts with a logical conclusion, how can you possibly draw up anything but Ronda ducking Cyborg at least once in their careers? She had plenty of opportunity to make the fight happen when they were both in the same organization. Ronda moved down and publicly stated that she would only fight Cyborg at 135 (which everybody know she would have a tough time making that cut).
What isn't true about any of that?
So you're telling me that the only opportune time during both of these fighters careers to face each other is during a Santos suspension? How does that work out? In the back alley some where or in some parking lot? Dude do you understand how card booking works? You stated a bunch of obvious facts... Yes they fought at the same weight at one point, when Rousey had just started in Strikeforce. Ronda won two fights, moved up in the 145 rankings, then Santos popped for PED's, which left us with a vacated title. So Ronda moved down to face Meisha Tate and won the 135 title. During this time frame UFC bought out Strikeforce, and it was already announce that they were only going to proceed with the 135 Bantamweight class (they then decided to keep Flyweight). So what youre saying is that after immediately after Ronda's last 145 bout she was supposed to fight Cyborg, and because she didn't that fight a month or so after her last then she's ducking.
Direct quote from Coker in June 2012
"I think [a bout between Ronda and Cyborg] is gonna be inevitable. I think that fight will happen at some point. We're just waiting for Cyborg to get off her suspension, but that conversation will happen once she's back and ready to fight because her and Ronda at 135, I mean, that might be the highest rated show on Showtime for the year or for the past fights we've done."
So this was on the Strikeforce time table after Cyborg's suspension. A time at which a buyout occurred and a entire weight class was dropped. How again is this ducking on Ronda's behalf?
A positive PED test/suspension
Corporate buyout
and a change within the Womens division are what prevented this fight.
Neither fighter ducked each other at that point. Cyborg is experiencing success at 145 and Ronda is at 135. If this fight ever happens it will be at 135, why? Because UFC doesn't have a 145 and if all parties involved want to make the amount of money that can be made from this fight it will happen on a UFC card, that means its on Cyborg to take the necessary steps to make it happen, NOT RONDA. Your ducking accusation is just dumb man.... It never happened, if you have a problem with Rousey it cant be with her ducking any fights with anyone, because she never has. Is Ronda supposed to vacate her belt, demand Dana sign a bunch of 145 females to add the Featherweight class just so she can fight Cyborg? Is this how things are supposed to work?
The current state of this Cyborg/Rousey thing is beyond stupid.. People have made Ronda into the uber successful, villain who sits atop a throne guarded by Dana, and Cyborg is lowly underdog getting roadblock after roadblock thrown at her to make this fight happen. Naturally people like to root for the underdog so they side with Cyborg without having a clue of the reason why this is where we are currently with this fight. People don't realize that without a Cyborg PED suspension back in 2012 this fight might have happened. Cyborg is a great fighter and im willing to bet that Dana was torn between her and Rousey as the front runners for the Womens division of UFC, but then Cyborg tested positive which made the choice easy.
