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War with Iran?
A good description of problems with the current Iran policy here. I still think blowing up the Iran Deal was Trump's worst foreign policy decision so far, the one with the riskiest, most unforseeable and uncontrollable consequences.

Main ideas are bolded, for easier skimming.

Trump’s Iran Policy Is a Failure: Blame U.S. blunders for the worsening crisis in the region.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/09/25/trumps-iran-policy-is-a-failure/?utm_source=PostUp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=15271&utm_term=Flashpoints%20OC

This month’s attack on two Saudi Aramco oil facilities marked a stunning escalation of tensions in the Middle East. The scale, sophistication, and accuracy of the strikes all suggest that Iran most likely conducted them, as both Riyadh and Washington allege.

The strikes represent a surprising and ill-conceived escalation by Iran,
just as U.S. President Donald Trump appeared be on the brink of offering concessions as an incentive to return to direct negotiations with the United States. But they also represent a massive, self-inflicted policy failure by the Trump administration, which triggered the crisis in the first place and has since worsened it through diplomatic, rhetorical, and strategic blunders. In his speech at the United Nations General Assembly Tuesday, Trump offered more of the same: the promise of continued economic and diplomatic pressure on Iran, which will do little to reduce tensions deter Iranian aggression....

The White House’s original mistake was its decision in May of last year to walk away from the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, which was keeping Tehran’s nuclear program in check. For a year after the United States withdrew, Iran remained in the deal and tried to isolate Washington from its partners. This approach met with some success as key European governments, along with Russia and China, sided with Iran and worked to keep it compliant with the nuclear agreement. However, international companies fearing U.S. sanctions quickly withdrew from Iran, eliminating the economic benefits associated with the accord. Meanwhile opponents of the deal argued that their strategy had led to the best of both worlds: an Iran under severe sanctions that was still abiding by its 2015 nuclear commitments.

That changed in April, when the Trump administration announced that it would no longer provide any waivers for countries purchasing oil from Iran, in an attempt to drive Iranian oil exports down to zero. With dwindling oil revenue, Iranian leadership decided to demonstrate to the United States the costs of continuing with maximum pressure and send a message to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates that if Iran could not sell oil, their oil exports would also take a hit.


The first and most important task when an adversary such as Iran conducts an unattributable attack is to convince Congress, the public, and the world—especially the United States’ closest allies—that Iran was in fact behind the attack. Yet this requires credibility the president no longer has, because of his willingness to lie on a daily basis about everything from voter fraud conspiracy theories to falsified hurricane paths.

In spite of Trump’s penchant for lying, the United States has close partners, especially in Europe, that might still be willing to believe U.S. accusations toward Iran if presented with compelling evidence. To make that case, the administration must carefully and deliberately gather all the available intelligence, show it to key allies and partners to build broad international support, and only then release it publicly.
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The administration’s failure to generate any kind of international response is not just about its lack of credibility. It’s also about a closely related issue: its complete unpredictability and unreliability.

U.S. partners are afraid to acknowledge Iran’s hand behind the attack even when the finger is likely pointed in the right direction, because they do not want to be associated with the erratic actions the United States might take next, which could potentially draw them into a conflict.


Take, for example, Operation Sentinel, the centerpiece of the Trump administration’s response to recent Iranian attacks in the Persian Gulf. The joint naval operation was meant to build a broad coalition of partners that would contribute ships and aircraft to monitor the Persian Gulf, Gulf of Oman, and Strait of Hormuz to deter Iranian attacks on international shipping. This is among the easiest types of coalition operations. Under a more trustworthy U.S. administration, most traditional U.S. partners would be expected to eagerly support such an effort. Instead, key partners such as Germany and France are trying to establish their own separate mission. Trump he is keen to have allies do more of the work, but his policies are driving the opposite outcome. The message to Iran is clear: The world does not care, so carry on with your attacks.

Even one of the United States’ most steadfast anti-Iran partners, the UAE, has not stood by the Trump administration. Not only did the UAE decline to publicly attribute the Fujairah attack to Iran even after the Trump administration encouraged it to do so, but it has also been pulling back from Yemen and begun naval military-to-military talks with Iran. If the UAE had any faith the United States would defend it and the Trump administration would act reliably, it may have acted differently.

Beyond its contribution to degrading U.S. credibility, reliability, and predictability, the Trump administration’s bellicose rhetoric, unsupported by a real military response, inhibits deterrence against Iran and limits Washington’s potential to push back covertly without igniting a large-scale conflict. Again and again, Trump has shown himself to be all talk and no action. Over the weekend, the president tweeted that the United States was “locked and loaded” to respond to Iran, only to pull back. This is a repeat pattern: In June, when Tehran reportedly downed a U.S. drone, Trump posted on Twitter about how Iran would pay but backed away from strikes in the end.

While Trump has no problem promising to punish Iran for its actions, he has yet to carry out any of his threats.
Thus far, his lack of military response has kept the United States from the brink of war, but it has also sent a message to Iran that it can keep pushing further and further without consequences. Eventually, the Iranians may overstep and go too far, and when they do, a president who has spent months thumping his chest may feel he has no choice but to go big in response, triggering a major conflict.

Compare Trump’s failed approach to what Israel has been able to do in Syria, where it has struck more than 1,000 Iranian targets in some 200 separate airstrikes without triggering significant retaliation. Israel has left attribution for these strikes ambiguous so as to not embarrass Iran and force a public response. But the message to Tehran is clear: Israel has imposed limits on how far Iran can go in Syria.
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Messages In This Thread
War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-17-2019, 01:19 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-17-2019, 01:25 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 02:00 PM
RE: War with Iran? - SunsetBengal - 06-17-2019, 03:09 PM
RE: War with Iran? - NATI BENGALS - 06-17-2019, 03:27 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-17-2019, 03:33 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 04:14 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-17-2019, 04:17 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 04:22 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-17-2019, 04:30 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-17-2019, 04:33 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 04:43 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-17-2019, 04:57 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 05:02 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-17-2019, 05:09 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-17-2019, 05:07 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-17-2019, 05:11 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-17-2019, 04:30 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-17-2019, 03:38 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 04:06 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-17-2019, 03:10 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 11:39 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-18-2019, 12:24 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-18-2019, 03:19 AM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-18-2019, 11:04 AM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-18-2019, 11:13 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-18-2019, 11:21 AM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-18-2019, 11:25 AM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-18-2019, 11:44 AM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-18-2019, 11:55 AM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-18-2019, 12:11 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-18-2019, 02:04 PM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-18-2019, 05:33 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-18-2019, 05:56 PM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-18-2019, 06:11 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-18-2019, 02:18 PM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-18-2019, 05:50 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-18-2019, 05:57 PM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-18-2019, 06:16 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-18-2019, 11:37 PM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-18-2019, 11:40 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-18-2019, 11:59 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-18-2019, 06:49 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-18-2019, 11:47 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-19-2019, 12:28 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-19-2019, 01:38 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-19-2019, 12:46 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-19-2019, 05:23 AM
RE: War with Iran? - BakertheBeast - 06-19-2019, 06:08 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-19-2019, 10:18 AM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-19-2019, 12:10 PM
RE: War with Iran? - NATI BENGALS - 06-17-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-17-2019, 03:13 PM
RE: War with Iran? - CJD - 06-17-2019, 03:45 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Benton - 06-17-2019, 03:45 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Belsnickel - 06-17-2019, 03:51 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-17-2019, 04:07 PM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-17-2019, 05:34 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-17-2019, 06:00 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-17-2019, 04:32 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-17-2019, 05:17 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 06:21 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-17-2019, 06:30 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 06:38 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-18-2019, 06:58 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-17-2019, 06:38 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 06:43 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-17-2019, 06:54 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 07:11 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-17-2019, 07:23 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 07:41 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-18-2019, 12:08 AM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-18-2019, 12:31 AM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-18-2019, 10:56 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-17-2019, 06:57 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-17-2019, 07:05 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-17-2019, 07:18 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 07:20 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-17-2019, 08:15 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-17-2019, 07:30 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-17-2019, 08:40 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-17-2019, 11:40 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-18-2019, 11:32 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-19-2019, 02:27 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-19-2019, 01:40 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-19-2019, 03:48 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 05:24 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-21-2019, 05:51 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-19-2019, 02:36 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-19-2019, 03:03 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-19-2019, 03:50 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-20-2019, 03:05 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 07:18 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-17-2019, 08:08 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-18-2019, 02:35 AM
RE: War with Iran? - NATI BENGALS - 06-17-2019, 09:17 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 09:53 PM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-17-2019, 10:00 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 10:07 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-18-2019, 03:05 AM
RE: War with Iran? - NATI BENGALS - 06-17-2019, 11:57 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-17-2019, 11:49 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Belsnickel - 06-17-2019, 04:46 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-17-2019, 05:27 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-17-2019, 05:35 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-17-2019, 06:33 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Benton - 06-17-2019, 06:36 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-17-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Yojimbo - 06-17-2019, 08:13 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-18-2019, 12:05 AM
RE: War with Iran? - NATI BENGALS - 06-18-2019, 01:11 AM
RE: War with Iran? - BakertheBeast - 06-18-2019, 05:33 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-18-2019, 02:03 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-18-2019, 07:33 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-18-2019, 11:21 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-19-2019, 10:51 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Arturo Bandini - 06-19-2019, 09:27 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-19-2019, 11:03 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Belsnickel - 06-19-2019, 11:13 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-19-2019, 11:15 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-19-2019, 12:38 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-19-2019, 02:42 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-19-2019, 03:15 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-19-2019, 03:45 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-19-2019, 04:39 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-19-2019, 03:28 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Belsnickel - 06-19-2019, 04:53 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-19-2019, 05:17 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Belsnickel - 06-19-2019, 05:21 PM
RE: War with Iran? - jj22 - 06-20-2019, 03:17 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-20-2019, 03:47 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-20-2019, 04:00 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-20-2019, 04:43 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-20-2019, 04:55 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-20-2019, 04:58 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-20-2019, 05:11 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-20-2019, 05:15 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-20-2019, 05:31 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-20-2019, 05:44 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-20-2019, 06:21 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-21-2019, 09:18 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-20-2019, 06:12 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-20-2019, 06:33 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-20-2019, 11:29 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-20-2019, 11:45 PM
RE: War with Iran? - BakertheBeast - 06-21-2019, 06:13 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-20-2019, 04:09 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-20-2019, 04:29 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-20-2019, 04:32 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-20-2019, 04:35 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-20-2019, 04:50 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 04:37 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-20-2019, 04:41 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 04:47 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-20-2019, 04:53 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 04:57 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-20-2019, 05:03 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 05:08 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-20-2019, 05:12 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 05:21 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-20-2019, 05:30 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 05:32 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-20-2019, 05:48 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 07:42 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-20-2019, 11:50 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-20-2019, 05:27 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-20-2019, 05:12 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-20-2019, 04:31 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 04:38 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-20-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 04:48 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-20-2019, 04:55 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-20-2019, 04:59 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-20-2019, 05:04 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 05:00 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-20-2019, 05:07 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 05:09 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-20-2019, 05:35 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-20-2019, 04:57 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-20-2019, 05:01 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 05:03 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-20-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 05:13 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-20-2019, 05:19 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 05:23 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-20-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-20-2019, 07:14 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 07:46 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-21-2019, 12:43 PM
RE: War with Iran? - jj22 - 06-20-2019, 05:05 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-20-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: War with Iran? - jj22 - 06-20-2019, 05:16 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-20-2019, 05:49 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-21-2019, 01:06 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 01:29 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-21-2019, 02:27 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-21-2019, 09:57 AM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-21-2019, 05:35 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-21-2019, 06:19 AM
RE: War with Iran? - BakertheBeast - 06-21-2019, 06:28 AM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-21-2019, 06:55 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-21-2019, 12:48 PM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-21-2019, 01:34 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-21-2019, 04:57 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 01:08 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 06-21-2019, 01:27 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-21-2019, 08:57 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-21-2019, 10:10 AM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-21-2019, 10:24 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-21-2019, 10:31 AM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-21-2019, 10:53 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-21-2019, 11:05 AM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-21-2019, 11:29 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-21-2019, 11:37 AM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-21-2019, 11:54 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-21-2019, 12:07 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 02:54 PM
RE: War with Iran? - jj22 - 06-21-2019, 10:38 AM
RE: War with Iran? - jj22 - 06-21-2019, 10:59 AM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-21-2019, 11:00 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-21-2019, 11:03 AM
RE: War with Iran? - CJD - 06-21-2019, 01:32 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 05:26 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-21-2019, 02:28 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-21-2019, 02:33 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 03:07 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-21-2019, 03:12 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 03:19 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-21-2019, 03:20 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 03:44 PM
RE: War with Iran? - CJD - 06-21-2019, 03:27 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 03:49 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-21-2019, 03:30 PM
RE: War with Iran? - jj22 - 06-21-2019, 11:13 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-21-2019, 11:20 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-21-2019, 02:01 PM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-21-2019, 02:17 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 03:30 PM
RE: War with Iran? - jj22 - 06-21-2019, 04:35 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: War with Iran? - jj22 - 06-21-2019, 03:49 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-21-2019, 01:19 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-21-2019, 02:24 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 03:16 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-21-2019, 03:45 PM
RE: War with Iran? - jj22 - 06-21-2019, 03:54 PM
RE: War with Iran? - jj22 - 06-21-2019, 03:58 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 04:15 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-21-2019, 04:10 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-21-2019, 04:52 PM
RE: War with Iran? - BakertheBeast - 06-26-2019, 05:31 AM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-21-2019, 04:34 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-21-2019, 04:42 PM
RE: War with Iran? - jj22 - 06-21-2019, 04:33 PM
RE: War with Iran? - CKwi88 - 06-21-2019, 05:08 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-21-2019, 05:14 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 06-21-2019, 05:19 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 06-21-2019, 06:23 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-22-2019, 12:18 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-22-2019, 10:05 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-22-2019, 10:14 AM
RE: War with Iran? - hollodero - 06-22-2019, 10:51 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-25-2019, 07:02 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-25-2019, 09:02 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-25-2019, 03:08 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-25-2019, 04:46 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 06-26-2019, 08:40 AM
RE: War with Iran? - jj22 - 06-26-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 06-27-2019, 01:22 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 07-03-2019, 09:13 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 07-08-2019, 12:03 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 07-19-2019, 03:59 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-19-2019, 05:45 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 07-19-2019, 06:08 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 07-23-2019, 08:59 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 07-23-2019, 11:17 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-23-2019, 11:36 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 07-23-2019, 12:09 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-23-2019, 12:32 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 07-23-2019, 12:38 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 07-23-2019, 10:27 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 07-25-2019, 08:50 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-25-2019, 09:01 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 07-25-2019, 09:14 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-25-2019, 10:34 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 07-30-2019, 03:07 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-30-2019, 11:05 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 07-30-2019, 12:14 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-30-2019, 12:32 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 07-30-2019, 04:49 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-30-2019, 04:56 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 07-30-2019, 04:50 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-30-2019, 04:55 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 07-31-2019, 04:12 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-31-2019, 05:03 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 07-31-2019, 05:54 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-01-2019, 12:36 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 08-01-2019, 11:56 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-01-2019, 12:39 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 08-01-2019, 05:55 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 08-01-2019, 06:35 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 07-30-2019, 01:36 AM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 08-01-2019, 06:25 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 08-01-2019, 07:19 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 08-01-2019, 09:09 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 08-02-2019, 01:48 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 08-02-2019, 05:23 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-01-2019, 11:59 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-06-2019, 10:18 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 08-06-2019, 05:37 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-06-2019, 06:51 PM
RE: War with Iran? - TheLeonardLeap - 08-06-2019, 06:59 PM
RE: War with Iran? - JustWinBaby - 08-07-2019, 04:23 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 08-07-2019, 08:23 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-07-2019, 09:21 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 08-07-2019, 09:26 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 08-07-2019, 11:14 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 08-07-2019, 11:26 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-07-2019, 11:32 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 08-07-2019, 04:10 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 08-06-2019, 06:51 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 09-16-2019, 07:37 PM
RE: War with Iran? - jason - 09-16-2019, 09:42 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 09-16-2019, 10:04 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-17-2019, 12:30 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 09-17-2019, 11:09 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-17-2019, 11:21 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 09-20-2019, 01:08 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 09-17-2019, 08:53 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 09-17-2019, 11:05 AM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 09-17-2019, 02:57 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 09-17-2019, 03:07 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 09-17-2019, 04:11 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 09-17-2019, 03:57 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 09-17-2019, 04:09 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 09-17-2019, 05:22 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 09-17-2019, 05:48 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 09-20-2019, 01:20 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 09-17-2019, 07:43 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 09-17-2019, 11:08 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 09-17-2019, 09:52 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Goalpost - 09-17-2019, 11:38 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 09-17-2019, 01:39 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-17-2019, 02:08 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Arturo Bandini - 09-17-2019, 02:29 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Bengalzona - 09-17-2019, 02:52 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 09-17-2019, 02:55 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Benton - 09-17-2019, 07:40 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 09-17-2019, 07:51 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-17-2019, 10:47 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Benton - 09-18-2019, 12:36 AM
RE: War with Iran? - TheLeonardLeap - 09-18-2019, 02:29 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-19-2019, 12:43 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Benton - 09-19-2019, 01:19 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-19-2019, 11:35 AM
RE: War with Iran? - TheLeonardLeap - 09-19-2019, 03:47 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-19-2019, 11:28 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Benton - 09-19-2019, 11:44 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-20-2019, 01:52 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Benton - 09-20-2019, 01:21 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 09-23-2019, 06:32 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Nebuchadnezzar - 09-17-2019, 04:42 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 09-17-2019, 10:47 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 09-18-2019, 08:50 AM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 09-18-2019, 02:06 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 09-18-2019, 03:07 PM
RE: War with Iran? - jj22 - 09-18-2019, 03:00 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 09-19-2019, 11:46 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Benton - 09-19-2019, 12:25 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 09-20-2019, 01:35 PM
RE: War with Iran? - bfine32 - 09-20-2019, 03:42 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 09-20-2019, 05:04 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 09-18-2019, 11:04 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 09-19-2019, 10:25 AM
RE: War with Iran? - Belsnickel - 09-19-2019, 01:55 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 09-20-2019, 02:30 PM
RE: War with Iran? - fredtoast - 09-23-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 09-21-2019, 08:54 AM
RE: War with Iran? - GMDino - 09-23-2019, 04:08 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 09-23-2019, 05:36 PM
RE: War with Iran? - Dill - 09-28-2019, 12:01 AM

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