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Bengals not expecting to sign Bates to an extension at this time
(08-17-2021, 12:26 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Just so I am clear.  Each of the last two seasons the Bengals have handed out one of the top 6 biggest contracts in free agency and you are still standing by your claim that Mike Brown has NEVER signed a top tier free agent.

This is actually a very flawed comment.  As I'm sure you're aware, NFL contracts are non-guaranteed (and hence why guaranteed money plays a large factor in free agent signings).    When you factor in guaranteed money, only DJ Reader's contract qualifies as a top tier free agent (5th in guaranteed money in his FA class).  When pointing to Trey Hendrickson, not only is he 21st in his FA class, but he's even behind the Bengal he replaced, Carl Lawson, who was in 7th.  Is there a particular reason you're being so disingenuous in an attempt to defend Mike Brown?


Quote:Actually "no".  You obviously don't know the definition of "back peddling" or "moving the goal posts".  My position is that Mike Brown has signed top tier free agents the last two years.  I have never moved from that position or changed it in any way.

You are the one who appeared to change his position form "never" to "didn't used to do it".

If your position is Mike Brown has signed top tier free agents, then why were you discussing drafting tight ends and interior guards?  

Quote:The discussion about how people like you have been proven 100% wrong when you ay "history proves the Bengals will never use a first round pick on a TE or interior lineman" is not changing my position in any way.  It is just another example of how wrong people like you have been in the past.  This supports my position without changing or moving it in any way.

You keep saying I've been proven 100% wrong, yet you can only provide me with one example (DJ Reader) of Mike Brown signing a free agent to one of the larger free agent contracts (for their respective class).  You do understand sample sizes, outliers and ratios, right?   LMAO

(08-17-2021, 12:32 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Because I only have to go back two years to prove that you are wrong when you said Mike Brown has NEVER signed a top tier free agent.

What's next from you?  Are you going to argue that Emmitt Smith is going to lead the league in rushing this year because he has gained the most rushing yards over the last 30 years?

Is Emmitt Smith still playing?  Is Mike Brown still the GM?  Yeah, so much for whatever argument that was supposed to be.  
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RE: Bengals not expecting to sign Bates to an extension at this time - Southpaw Frerotte - 08-17-2021, 09:40 AM

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