06-30-2022, 08:33 PM
(06-30-2022, 02:32 AM)kevin Wrote: WHY did Greene have to leave the game after 4 innings ?
I didn't watch it, so I do not know.
Red.com acts like it was a great outing. Greene Gets 5 K's in 4 Innings is their Hype. Yes, and he gave up 3 earned runs is 4 innings and took another loss. Plus he made the bullpen work overtime.
Was he injured, because his Pitch Count wasn't that bad. Why did Greene get pulled by Bell after 4 innings ? Was he injured ?
It was NOT a good outing, I don't care how Reds.com tries to spin it.
As for all this trade talk on Drury, he is the only Home Run hitter on this team and Reds are getting him pretty cheap. If you trade Drury the Reds will indeed lose over 100 games this year. It is sad that in Home Run Friendly park the Reds play in, only Drury is hitting Home Runs and Pham is close with 10. The High Paid Killing this team are Votto with 5 Homers and Moose with 3 Homers and both batting around .220 at mid point of season.
Pete Rose and Joe Morgan said if they had played in Great American they would have hit 30 homers each every year. So the Reds bats must be very weak in 2022 because The Reds can't even hit homers in Great American Ball Park.
As for Trade talk, getting rid of Drury or Castillo will not help this team and you know it. You Know It. You are thinking the way the game has been played for 150 years, you are not with the times. The Reds are a SMALL MARKET ball club. They do NOT have the payroll the Yankees or Dodgers have and never will. They need to do more with less. However that is impossible with the Votto Contact that runs into 2024 or 2025. The Reds are looking at 2 or 3 more seasons in Last Place as long as they are stuck with Joey Votto. A First Baseman with 5 Homers and batting around .200 and yet is The Highest Paid Red Ever. The money possibilities of players gets very exciting if the Reds didn't have The Votto or Moose Contracts holding this team back. The problem is not Drury or Castillo, The problem is Joey Votto and you know it. As long as the Reds are stuck with The Votto Contract, the Reds will be stuck in Last Place.
It is for that reason I would not trade Drury who is the only Home Run hitter on this team in 2022, nor would I trade Castillo who is one of the very few pitchers worth keeping on this team. Don't blame them because the Reds are stuck with the Votto Contact, and nobody they bring in will help as long as Reds still have The Votto Contract. Only once Votto is off this team can the Reds use his payroll to improve this team, and it's just that simple. That is why I wish The Reds were willing to pay half of Votto's contract to go play his last years for another team. Yes, they would still be paying him plenty to be with another team, but if they could get out of half his payroll, The Reds just might be able to Win More Games. Notice the Reds won games in May when Votto was injured. If they can't trade him, they should at least bench him, I don't care how much they are paying him. Same with Moose. The Reds owner should gladly pay Half of Votto's contract to play for another team Votto agrees to, because at least the Reds would be dumping Half his payroll. Votto was good when Reds had Bruce and Brandon Phillips, but that was a long time ago. He is past his prime and he is going to be just awful the next few years, and why the Reds need to find a way out of his contract. The Reds owner should consider paying even more than half his contract the next few years, because the Reds could use whatever money they would not have to pay him. Paying a big part of his contract to play for somebody else is the way to go, and some team might jump on that if they didn't have to pay all his contract. The owner should go to Votto and ask what teams he would be willing to play for, take the list Votto makes, get on the phone, and work a deal where one of those teams gets Votto at Half Price Discount. It is the quick way out, and the Reds should not ask for much of a player in the trade, just dump payroll. The Reds will not do it however, because they think Votto is Great, and that type of thinking will have the Reds in Last Place for years to come also.
Now Hunter Greene is still young and probably should have been in Minors this year. He leads the Majors in Homers and Losses. Hopefully The Reds aren't ruining a good young pitcher who could maybe be good in 2023. Greene is NOT good in 2022, he is Awful.
I do wonder why Greene had to leave after 4 innings. I guess I'll find out, maybe. His pitch count was not high. 3 runs in 4 innings but that is no reason to pull him. Hopefully he is not injured. He has had injury problems in The Minors. Hopefully he is not injured.
Kevin, your obsession with the contracts of Votto and Moose is getting a little creepy. But we can't just shut down the entire operation and not make any moves unless we can move those two. That just is not realistic. At this point I don't see any team that would take either of them with us paying most of the salary.
What is realistic is that we are going to lose 100 games this year even if we keep Castillo and Drury. I actually like Castillo a lot, but he will be 30 next year. I don't want to give him a big long term deal at this age. So get a prospect for him.
