01-07-2024, 09:55 PM
(01-07-2024, 06:17 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Didn't read this one?
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/insurrection
"an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence:"
I didn't, but I also did qualify my statement with "pretty much everything." There is a reason for that. The number of definitions that would call it an insurrection far outweighs those that don't.
(01-07-2024, 06:17 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: There was no plan to take and maintain control with installing their own government. The fact that it's even debateable if it's a riot or insurrection proves the point It is an exceptional and complicated charge, and there are specific legal criteria and elements beyond the whim of someone parsing the definition of words. That why NO ONE has been charged with insurrection.
That's not a requirement in most definitions. Also, there really aren't specific legal criteria. That's part of the problem here.
(01-07-2024, 06:17 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: If it was actually an insurrection, why was NO ONE charged or convicted of it? You don't think they would have done that, if there was any hope of success, to give this challenge a modicum of standing? The election fraud and interference are just that - separate and distinct from insurrection. And, unfortunately, not disqualifying.
Because those charges are very rare all throughout history and known to be difficult to prove. Therefore, they don't typically get charged. The rest of this section is, well, shwoign your colors a little bit.
(01-07-2024, 06:17 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: This is nothing but a series of hailmary's - there are about 6 elements to this which nearly all seem pretty easily and likely to fail. It would be nice if the "pro democracy" party would be a little less fascist with their political opponents. And when the SCOTUS rightfully smacks this down, you can bet the "anti-fascist" party will renew cries to pack the court.
Blame the GOP for this one, they are the ones that made this the law.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR
"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR
"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR
