11-09-2017, 03:59 PM
Listen, Andy Dalton is not a perfect QB. Andy is not elite. He is well above average, but he's not a top tier QB. He needs to be kept clean. His career has proven that when given time, he can be a top 11-15 QB though. Maybe even a 9-10 QB, but that's going to be it.
One of the biggest problems that has hurt his production is our lack of a running game. With the exception of 2014, the Bengals are usually around 19-20 in rushing yards and 22nd or worst in yards per carry. Sure, other QBs deal with a lackluster rushing attack, but those teams usually try to offset that with quick, short throws. Not the Bengals. Since he has been here, Marvin Lewis has always said he wants to be a run first team because of playing in the AFCN. So regardless of OC or OLine play, we continue to try and pound the ball for negative or no gains and put ourselves in obvious passing situations. Telegraphing your offense is bad coaching and puts yourself in a tough spot. Insisting on forcing the run game when it's not working is also not helpful.
You can call me all the names you want and say I'm making all of the excuses you want, but facts are facts. Dalton does not benefit from a good ground game, he does not benefit from good coaching, and he's currently not benefiting from his OLine's play. A lot of these issues come from coaching. I'd like to see what Dalton can do with improved coaching and improved OLine play. If he's still not getting it done, maybe it is time to move on from him. I just feel he should get the same benefit of the doubt that the other players get. If we think improved coaching would help them, why wouldn't it help Dalton.
Yes, Dalton makes mistakes but he's held to a much different standard by Bengals fans. He should've made that throw to Green against the Jags, but missing it doesn't make him bad at the deep ball. The guy is always at or near the top of the league as a deep ball passer. No, he doesn't have a big arm but it's strong enough to make the throws. He's also a pretty accurate QB overall. Besides his rookie year, he consistently puts up a completion percentage of low to mid 60s. You're attacking parts of his game that he's actually pretty good at. If you want to talk about how he needs better pocket awareness or footwork, those are valid.
The reason you say things like "Andy Army" (so dumb) will rush to defend him is because you attack his strengths. He's plenty good enough to help this team win. The one constant is the head coach who has a horrible postseason and prime time record regardless of his QBs. The issue is bigger than Dalton. Again, he has weaknesses and areas he needs to improve. If you want to talk about those and say you feel those are reasons we should move on, that's a legitimate discussion. But saying he's inaccurate and throws a poor deep ball, those are simply not true and why people will call you on it.
One of the biggest problems that has hurt his production is our lack of a running game. With the exception of 2014, the Bengals are usually around 19-20 in rushing yards and 22nd or worst in yards per carry. Sure, other QBs deal with a lackluster rushing attack, but those teams usually try to offset that with quick, short throws. Not the Bengals. Since he has been here, Marvin Lewis has always said he wants to be a run first team because of playing in the AFCN. So regardless of OC or OLine play, we continue to try and pound the ball for negative or no gains and put ourselves in obvious passing situations. Telegraphing your offense is bad coaching and puts yourself in a tough spot. Insisting on forcing the run game when it's not working is also not helpful.
You can call me all the names you want and say I'm making all of the excuses you want, but facts are facts. Dalton does not benefit from a good ground game, he does not benefit from good coaching, and he's currently not benefiting from his OLine's play. A lot of these issues come from coaching. I'd like to see what Dalton can do with improved coaching and improved OLine play. If he's still not getting it done, maybe it is time to move on from him. I just feel he should get the same benefit of the doubt that the other players get. If we think improved coaching would help them, why wouldn't it help Dalton.
Yes, Dalton makes mistakes but he's held to a much different standard by Bengals fans. He should've made that throw to Green against the Jags, but missing it doesn't make him bad at the deep ball. The guy is always at or near the top of the league as a deep ball passer. No, he doesn't have a big arm but it's strong enough to make the throws. He's also a pretty accurate QB overall. Besides his rookie year, he consistently puts up a completion percentage of low to mid 60s. You're attacking parts of his game that he's actually pretty good at. If you want to talk about how he needs better pocket awareness or footwork, those are valid.
The reason you say things like "Andy Army" (so dumb) will rush to defend him is because you attack his strengths. He's plenty good enough to help this team win. The one constant is the head coach who has a horrible postseason and prime time record regardless of his QBs. The issue is bigger than Dalton. Again, he has weaknesses and areas he needs to improve. If you want to talk about those and say you feel those are reasons we should move on, that's a legitimate discussion. But saying he's inaccurate and throws a poor deep ball, those are simply not true and why people will call you on it.
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