The big 3 is the problem

[The Caped Crusader]

(11-10-2017, 04:49 AM)bengalsturntup5532 Wrote: Once again you are have been involved in football for so long but you can't see the inaccuracy over the years? Jeez man . I'll try to give my evaluation about Dalton of watching him for 7 years .

Dalton is not a fast runner but he did a lot of it at tcu you can tell by his highlight video coming in. But hes a pocket passer without the things to really make you a pocket passer. The accuracy is always inconsistent to bad, he has improved it before but it always goes bad again. He's kind of short for a pocket passer . His footwork in the pocket isn't good or his mechanics,this is a area aj McCarron has him beat and accuracy,he doesn't climb the pocket at all. Some times he runs out of the pocket when he don't have too. He surrenders to sacks and looks down . Sometimes he looks scared to take a hit while throwing ( has gotten better at that last two games) .doesn't have a big arm or live arm. He's Mr nice guy most the time and shows no leadership.he pretty much has a blank face like he's a robot out there.oh yeah has trouble scanning the field for his other options because he don't like hanging in the pocket.

Positives he does have velocity on his short to intermediate throws but that isn't what a big arm is like a wentz or early Palmer probably because of his size . He's better in the fast throw get the ball out quick, predetermined throws game. When you ask him to be a true pocket passer that's where he struggles. Oh yeah he can run for a first down sometimes.

*Googles Football key words to use to defend weak argument*

Did you not read a single thing I posted!? I don't feel like you did, really at all. I didn't expect you to after your following posts attacked other's Football IQ when you've presented inability to debate an argument, as well as counter any argument without resorting to name calling or referring to adults as 'butt hurt'.


Lets break your argument down, one by one...and watch it fall apart...QUICKLY!


1. Dalton is not a fast runner - 4.87 40 time, beats AJM. Cone drills 6.93 beats AJM. Shuttle drill? 4.27. Beats AJM. Dalton might not be a 'fast' runner, but he is a better, quicker athlete than AJM. The same guy who made a Collegiate career with what was regarded as the best offensive line in College...

2. Dalton is a pocket passer without any of the things that make him a pocket passer - What makes a pocket passer a good pocket passer, in your book? Quick release? Dalton, under a great line, had a top 3 release (especially see that 2015 MVP year where the ball was getting out in under 2.4 seconds). I'd say ability to read and scan to make decisions, IE 2015 NFL year, last year AND MULTIPLE NFL draft analysis. Arm strength? Dalton was actually praised for his arm strength, but it was considered, much like AJM as a weakness...So, your point is completely mute here.

3. He's Short For A Pocket Passer - Half an inch shorter than AJM but makes up for it in the half an inch in arm length.

4. Sometimes He Looks Scared To Take Hits - Most of these are ENTIRELY subjective off your opinion, one that has been destroyed time and time again...that being said, Dalton has shown the ability to stand in the pocket and take shots his ENTIRE career.

Draft Profile on Dalton in the pocket:

Quote:Dalton does not get rattled in the pocket and can use his mobility to escape if the pocket breaks down. He has a calm about himself in the pocket and is not afraid to stand in until the last minute and take a big hit.

5. Doesn't have a big or 'live' arm -

Draft Profile for Dalton, again

Quote:Dalton has the strength to throw with zip and get the ball between defenders. As a West Coast Offense passer, he would excel due to his ability to fit the ball in tight spaces on short and intermediate routes. Despite not having the strongest arm, he does show nice touch on deep balls.

Quote:  Has a quick release, a strong arm and is an accurate passer, especially on the run.

Now for AJM

Quote:Does not have a big-time, vertical arm. Average athlete. Makes occasional bone-headed decisions. Heaves the deep ball and forces receivers to make adjustments. Does not drive the deep out.

I'm sorry to say, but your evaluation is just....well, wrong. It looks like you're looking at the worse games, dialing up what a few drunk beer buddies say and are spreading it to the pages. The fact is, if Dalton was as BAD as you said he was...he wouldn't continue to put up the numbers he does. Sure, we are struggling as of late, and I won't take anything from that...but literally, so is everyone.



But we can continue this back and forth. As far as I'm concerned...AJM was extremely underwhelming on a GREAT playoff team where Dalton was a Top 3 MVP candidate...