The big 3 is the problem

[Shake n Blake]

(11-11-2017, 01:25 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'll just assume you are choosing to ignore the fact that Wilson can escape pressure better than Andy. Bottomline is they play behind similarly talented Olines (Cincy's was much better last year) and Russell has been the better QB. If folks want to bring up "so and so" could not do better behind this oline. Keep it real and use folks like Jacoby Brissett, Trevor Simien, and Carson Palmer. Don't display your ignorance and drag out names such as Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Russell Wilson. 

This is a far more complicated topic than either of us are letting on. Sure, Wilson can outrun a defender better than Andy (or any other QB right now), but running QB's are often among the most sacked in the NFL. Russell Wilson, Mike Vick and Kaepernick were all sacked at a high rate. Sure they can run away from a defender in a straight line, but all the running around can also lead to more sacks. Taking a sack after 5-6 seconds of running around is quite different than immediate pressure off the snap.

I feel ya on the comparisons. I try to avoid using the best QB's in the NFL for comparison. Dalton is an "above average" guy. Only the top 2-3 QB's in the NFL are going to see little drop in performance under constant pressure. 

I gotta disagree on our line being far better than Seattle's last year. The sack numbers (41 and 42) and run efficiency (23rd and 24th) were nearly identical. As were Dalton and Wilson's stats. It's crazy how similar all the stats are. Seattle remained at that level this year, and traded for an upgrade. The Bengals got even worse and brought back Eric Winston.