The big 3 is the problem

[Bengalholic]

(11-11-2017, 02:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Who mentioned anything about wins; as I understand wins are a team effort? But let's point to something else that can attribute to wins. Defense:

Cincy is 6th in the NFL in YPG, Washington is 18th, NYJ is 24th.

We are 11th in points per game, NYJ is 17th and Wash is 24th.

So despite the fact that they have much worse defenses they still have one more win.

You can introduce stats all day if you want and I can easily counter because Andy is what he is. A mid-tier QB and currently performing much worse than the likes of McCown and Cousins in similar situations. Hell poor ole Jacoby Brissett is in his first year as a starter under much worse conditions and has a the same amount of wins and comparable passer rting to Dalton. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at the end of the day...wins and losses are what it's all about, correct? Yes, wins are a 'team effort' and the point is that it's about much more than a QB rating.

You've made a point of bringing up the QB stats, and examples like Cousins and McCown. However, those stats haven't led their teams to have a season all that different than the Bengals. How is it that either would necessarily 'do better' here than Andy? Have better stat lines? I'm not convinced that does anything to change the 3-5 record, namely because all the other issues would still exist.

Since there's been so much focus on stats / rankings, I'll throw this out there -
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-nfl-qb-rankings-by-pff-grade-after-week-9