The big 3 is the problem

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(11-16-2017, 01:45 AM)bengalsturntup5532 Wrote: Actually let's just call it like it is. There are diehard Dalton fans who will wait years for him to succeed till he basically retires. And there's fans who are not impressed with the 7 long years they've seen him and don't think he is the answer and ready for someone new. That's all it comes down too.

Actually, what it is is there are people who don't understand the NFL and claim an obviously above average QB to be "the" problem on this team. And there are those who recognize that he's not great, but good enough to win with who are forced to defend him from those that make up shit about him.

In other words, you have Dalton haters vs Dalton defenders but in your mind defender = lover. Now sure I like the guy, but if a better QB was available, I'd have no problem upgrading as would most Dalton defenders.

(11-16-2017, 01:45 AM)bengalsturntup5532 Wrote: There is no possible way to determine if McCarron would do better or go farther then Andy Dalton right now. He would need atleast a couple years starting under his belt to make any kind of comparison. Furthermore McCarron came in cold,they have no contact practices,and the backup doesn't get time with the starters.he was thrown into battle and didn't do bad for himself. He almost beat the Superbowl champs ,and came the closest to win a playoff game compared to Andy Dalton. I don't see how anyone can disagree with any of that.

"Almost beat" someone? You mean he still lost? You crack me up. Dalton's almost beat most of the teams he's faced this year, but you still claim him to be a problem. Make up your mind about when "almost beat"ing someone is acceptable or not.

(11-16-2017, 01:45 AM)bengalsturntup5532 Wrote: 1) There are fans that said that year on Facebook in my group that if McCarron won us a ring that year then the job goes back to Andy.  2)There are fans who will go to their grave saying Dalton wasn't a problem. That's what you call a Dalton lover. 3) There are fans that want to just be right and say I told you so. 4) There are fans that if Dalton went somewhere else,they'd secretly just follow him and root for his team to win.am I wrong?

1) Who knows? Merv likes to think he's old school so he probably would make Andy the starter because of the old "you don't lose your job to injury" but it's Merv so we probably never had a chance to win the Super Bowl anyway
2) Dalton has his issues. So does EVERY QB. You know why Peyton Manning doesn't have more Super Bowl wins and appearances? Because his biggest issue is moving before the snap. If the defense moves a lot before the snap, he always had a hard time reading the defense. Sometimes he'd overcome, many times he wouldn't. Doesn't mean Peyton was "a problem." Same with Dalton, except he has a few more issues than Peyton. However, Dalton has shown we can win with him as evidenced by the fact that HE'S WON MORE GAMES THAN HE'S LOST. Ergo, he's not a problem.
3) Yes, there are and I have a feeling you're one of them.
4) I'm sure there are. Most of the Dalton defenders talking to you, though, are like me and like the guy but are fans of the Bengals first above any player.

(11-16-2017, 09:22 AM)muskiesfan Wrote: A lot of the "Dalton lovers" "Andy's Army" and all of this other stuff you call us agree with me. They don't mind upgrading over Dalton. It's just not as easy as the Cult of McCarron thinks it is (I can make up names too). Andy is better than the McCarron fans give him credit for. McCarron is not an upgrade. That doesn't mean people that are supporting Andy are strictly fans of Dalton, they just understand that he's the best QB on the roster right now. If the Bengals bring in a QB that is an upgrade to Dalton, I have no problem moving forward with the new QB. It's just not that easy. It may take a couple of swings and misses before that QB is found.

This right here should be the end of the thread but somehow I doubt it will be.