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[Shake n Blake]

(12-07-2017, 07:51 PM)Beaker Wrote: Yes it's a rebuild, but I don't think the browns are still that bereft of talent. They have played well on several games, and likely should have a win or two by now this season. I think hue is not even getting the best out of the little he does have at this point. Like I said, I think he makes a better coordinator than HC.

Like I said, I think they're tanking. I don't think winning has been a priority so much as collecting as many quality draft picks as possible in a 3-4 year span.

(12-07-2017, 08:30 PM)Benton Wrote: I dunno. Records like that are demoralizing, and it gets hard to overcome. Even if you turn it around, it stills lingers whenever you drop a couple games, like 'oh crap, is it this again?' So if the Browns as a team are doing that as a strategy, it seems like a pretty bad one as far as getting players to play hard for you.

Different, but I interviewed a high school basketball coach one time whose team hadn't won in 37 straight games. What was the one thing they needed to change (scheduling, strategy, kids coming out, etc)? His answer was "attitude." After the first half-winless season, those kids forgot what it was like to win. Then they went a whole season without a win. Then half another before the coach got rid of the varsity kids and started playing his eighth graders and a couple freshman. They finally got a win because it wasn't in their heads.

If the Browns' strategy is to become the best by setting records for being the worst, they aren't going to attract a lot of decent players. And the players they have are going to remember the bumps along the way.

Besides, I'd disagree in that they're making moves to try and win, they're just doing all the wrong things. A QB looks good, they play him. A QB throws an interception, they dump him and grab the next guy. They're still making plays. Hell, they only lost by three points to the Colts, Steelers, Jets, and Titans this season. They're trying, they just don't know how to win.

Hue may be a fine coordinator, but he's been awful as a HC. He's continued the same Browns trend of "start every player at quarterback and see who sticks" that hans't worked. i'm pretty happy the Browns are keeping him on the roll next year in the far, far remote chance that Marvin is no longer helming the Bengals (which I think he will be).

I feel ya, but the counter to that is teams like the 76ers, Royals and Astros. After years of tanking and losing, suddenly they are (were) on top, with many of the same players that were there through all the losing. There's a lot of trial and error along the way and a lot of players will be tested. I'm not saying it will work, but this looks to be what Cleveland is doing. That's why they hired baseball guys for the FO.

Yeah the Browns were close to a few W's this year, yet they still lose. I don't think 1-27 happens by accident. You may not think Hue is a genius (he's not), but he's not this inept, either. They kept him for a reason. Tanking was the plan.

(12-07-2017, 08:56 PM)Wyche Wrote: If Merv returns....I'm out. If Piano Man returns, I'm out.

Same here brother. Same here.