12-21-2017, 08:24 AM
I seen there was some actual Dalton doubters on this thread so I decided to log in because this is rare. I'm realizing there are just some fans out there that will fight for Dalton to the death as long as he's here. I don't get the reasoning really I don't see how people enjoy watching him,I dont.
Now I think it will come down to the coach hired here,if it's in house,or hue or jay , we might as well forget a qb until 3rd or later to replace McCarron which sucks and I do not want. To me Dalton is not good,but he's not bad . But I think in the NFL you really need good. You need your qb to make plays and have the skill to overcome stuff. You need a qb with confidence ,and when I see Dalton I don't see confidence,he's took on his head coaches personality,the bungals look. Like omg I don't want to lose this.youll never win like that.
Forget the stats. Because a lot of qbs can get stats in today's NFL, look at case keenum this year,he's having a identical Dalton 2015 year without the injury at the end. And I will swear by it,case keenum will not get them to a Superbowl or win it,I'd bet money,neither will Bridgewater. Let's evaluate Dalton as a qb. He's inconsistent accuracy wise ,doesn't step up in the pocket or have proper mechanics and footwork inside the pocket, does not possess hardly any scrambling ability. His strengths are playing to the system in a fast quick read throws. Picture the greenbay game and that's his strengths. Every time they ask him to drop back and scan ,this is his weakness. He's just not that qb . He's terrible with pressure because of his flaws. Like another member pointed out he will run around in one spot and run right into a defender,or he will run to the right shrinking the field,hoping he can find someone which he might a quarter of the time. He has good velocity on his throws ,but it's weird because he still don't have a big arm or live arm.
Do you want to know why people want to see McCarron? It's because he's confident,he has proper mechanics in the pocket and knows how to buy a couple more seconds sliding in the pocket,or up in the pocket. Where McCarron flaws is he doesn't have velocity on his throws or a big arm either,he's captain check down and that makes people believe he just straight sucks because it's boring football. Every time they have played McCarron they do not give McCarron the Andy Dalton playbook of fast throws,like screens ,slants ,designed plays where Dalton does not not have to really scan the field. They have McCarron drop back and scan about every time it's weird ,maybe it's because of the velocity on his throws idk.
McCarron would need a lot more practice and a lot more games to judge him really but he doesnt have a big arm and bores me so my conclusion is go for one in the draft. The only star qb I'm seeing is baker mayfield,he's the only one I really really want. I got question marks on all the rest. I seriously doubt we'd get lucky and get Mayfield. So I say just go for a big arm qb and coach him up and see what he can become . I'm really Leary on Lamar Jackson because he's more of a runner and the way he talks he sounds slow,you need brains to really win. How's he going to communicate at the line ? If he isn't that bright.i just don't see Lamar Jackson going deep into the playoffs. The other strong arms would be darnold, allen,and Rudolph. That's all I know of . Havnt seen the other qbs in the draft . Rosen I'd stay away from,what I've seen is he's only a pocket passer and he's inconsistent.
My opinion I think we'd hit the lottery on Mayfield and a new coach but I don't think good things happen to my favorite team. I'll be sad when he gets drafted by someone else,and watch him be a star in the NFL. Darnold looks almost identical to Palmer to me that could be a direction we could go. But I think he would take 2-3 years to develop. Just like Carson did.
Now I think it will come down to the coach hired here,if it's in house,or hue or jay , we might as well forget a qb until 3rd or later to replace McCarron which sucks and I do not want. To me Dalton is not good,but he's not bad . But I think in the NFL you really need good. You need your qb to make plays and have the skill to overcome stuff. You need a qb with confidence ,and when I see Dalton I don't see confidence,he's took on his head coaches personality,the bungals look. Like omg I don't want to lose this.youll never win like that.
Forget the stats. Because a lot of qbs can get stats in today's NFL, look at case keenum this year,he's having a identical Dalton 2015 year without the injury at the end. And I will swear by it,case keenum will not get them to a Superbowl or win it,I'd bet money,neither will Bridgewater. Let's evaluate Dalton as a qb. He's inconsistent accuracy wise ,doesn't step up in the pocket or have proper mechanics and footwork inside the pocket, does not possess hardly any scrambling ability. His strengths are playing to the system in a fast quick read throws. Picture the greenbay game and that's his strengths. Every time they ask him to drop back and scan ,this is his weakness. He's just not that qb . He's terrible with pressure because of his flaws. Like another member pointed out he will run around in one spot and run right into a defender,or he will run to the right shrinking the field,hoping he can find someone which he might a quarter of the time. He has good velocity on his throws ,but it's weird because he still don't have a big arm or live arm.
Do you want to know why people want to see McCarron? It's because he's confident,he has proper mechanics in the pocket and knows how to buy a couple more seconds sliding in the pocket,or up in the pocket. Where McCarron flaws is he doesn't have velocity on his throws or a big arm either,he's captain check down and that makes people believe he just straight sucks because it's boring football. Every time they have played McCarron they do not give McCarron the Andy Dalton playbook of fast throws,like screens ,slants ,designed plays where Dalton does not not have to really scan the field. They have McCarron drop back and scan about every time it's weird ,maybe it's because of the velocity on his throws idk.
McCarron would need a lot more practice and a lot more games to judge him really but he doesnt have a big arm and bores me so my conclusion is go for one in the draft. The only star qb I'm seeing is baker mayfield,he's the only one I really really want. I got question marks on all the rest. I seriously doubt we'd get lucky and get Mayfield. So I say just go for a big arm qb and coach him up and see what he can become . I'm really Leary on Lamar Jackson because he's more of a runner and the way he talks he sounds slow,you need brains to really win. How's he going to communicate at the line ? If he isn't that bright.i just don't see Lamar Jackson going deep into the playoffs. The other strong arms would be darnold, allen,and Rudolph. That's all I know of . Havnt seen the other qbs in the draft . Rosen I'd stay away from,what I've seen is he's only a pocket passer and he's inconsistent.
My opinion I think we'd hit the lottery on Mayfield and a new coach but I don't think good things happen to my favorite team. I'll be sad when he gets drafted by someone else,and watch him be a star in the NFL. Darnold looks almost identical to Palmer to me that could be a direction we could go. But I think he would take 2-3 years to develop. Just like Carson did.
