01-12-2018, 08:58 AM
(01-11-2018, 11:42 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Not really holding them to a standard, let alone a ridiculous one. Vick had some success in a couple places. Landry was a major college big program QB. There is/was a lot of talent there. Too much for them to look as bad as they did.
When Dalton went down in '15, McCarron came in and was able to keep his play at a 90+ QB rating level.
As i said in my last post, you asked about those that talked about if Tomlin was still riding Cowher's coat tails. As long as he still has Ben, he is in a way.
Vick came to the Steelers at the end of his career and his level of play was such that he didn't even get picked up that year until the Steelers had a backup get injuried in training camp. He was never signed again after that season. But sure, let's use him as an example of someone the Steelers should have gotten elite play out of.
As for Landry, the Big 12 doesn't exactly have a reputation for producing elite quarterbacks. The styles of play are different enough that success there has not necessarily consistently translated into NFL greatness. Go ahead and name a current elite NFL QB from the Big 12. Heck, give me your top five all time. This site put together such a list and they had Kordell Stewsrt at five. 'Nuff said.
The point is that expecting a coach to get either one of those two to produce like Ben is ridiculous. McCarron has the potential to be better than either of those guys (in Vick's case using his Steeler era as the only point of comparison).
To your main point, Tomlin got Ben in only the fourth year of Ben's career. In reviewing said career, one could argue that he underwent most of his professional growth under Tomlin's tenure. Ben was not exactly at his most developed point football-wise In 2007. Obviously the head coach isn't solely responsible for that, but he is the guy who put together the staff that helped him grow.
