Do you think Ross gets a 2nd life?

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(02-09-2018, 12:41 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You can't be serious. 

Mike Brown with Marvin Lewis as head coach...  .527 win%..... 5 losing seasons in 15 years
Mike Brown with all other head coaches...........  .303 win%..... 11 losing seasons in 12 years

The Bengals never had the best roster in the NFL.  When they had a good roster they played well and made the playoffs.  It is amazing that you noticed all the coaches leaving but were unaware that a lot of talented players left also.  Gee I wonder why that is?

Mike Zimmer was a Defensive coordinator for 8 years and never made the playoffs once until he coached under Marvin Lewis.

Hue Jackson has been either a head coach or an offensive coordinator for three teams other than the Bengals and has never had a single winning season in six years.

Jay Gruden took over a team that was only one year removed from making the playoffs and had 2 losing seasons in his first four.  Marvin Lewis took over a team that had not had a single winning season in a dozen years and did not have a single losing season in his first four.
 

Was totally serious, and correct, I might add.  You took a discussion about the current Bengals coaching staff and turned it in to a history lesson looking back to an era where there was no cap and no rookie wage scale.  I never said they had the best roster in the NFL (although there were some media types that wrote articles about that subject).  

You try to blame the owner and not the one coach that has been here through all of it by saying that all the good players left.  Did they really?  Did they leave the Rams and Titans?  Or did their ownership FINALLY get rid of conservative, idiot coaches.  That is how I view the Bengals.  If someone like those coaches took over this roster...Too bad we won't find out.

Your criticism of Hue Jackson shows your complete lack of comprehension on the situation he is managing.  They stripped that ENTIRE team of ALL their talent and went with draft picks.  He has had ONE draft class that he has had to work with.  So, according to you, he should be winning with the heaviest rookie-laden roster in the NFL?  They are building something and at least they are sticking to the plan.  Hue had a pathetic Raiders roster on the cusp of the playoffs and they slipped RIGHT BACK IN TO THE OBLIVION when he was released.  

Your criticism of Gruden and Zimmer shows an even greater lack of understanding.  Ten times the coaches that Marv would ever be.  When you are trying to portray Zimmer, Gruden, and Hue as bad coaches when all three are still NFL Head Coaches (that is nearly 10% of ALL NFL HEAD COACHING POSITIONS...in a win-now league) is just pathetic.  

The Bengals have won in spite of Marvin.  Never because of him.  Some dominant personalities have created strengths on different sides of the ball, but Marv is not the one that comes up with the creative, aggressive play-calling and defensive schemes that is needed to compete in today's NFL.  That is why once those guys were gone, Marv was exposed.  He will fail again this year.