Why your team sucks

[BFritz21]

(08-17-2015, 07:48 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: You're full of shit!

I specifically stated that everything the Ravens are now came from the original Browns, but my point is that the Browns just became the Ravens, so the entire history goes WITH THE TEAM THAT FORMED THE HISTORY.


The new Browns are a completely new franchise that has nothing to do with the old one, aside from the name and location.

Everything the previous Browns did shaped and formed who the Ravens are, but the new Browns were a completely new franchise.

(08-17-2015, 09:24 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: It's the internet, bud. You realize everything you said is recorded, right?





So am I still "full of shit" when I say that you disagree with the fact that the Ravens are a new franchise and the Browns a continuation of the Browns franchise? Or are you going to shut up now?

Renaming them to avoid a lawsuit and starting an entirely new franchise are two different things!!

It's not as cut-and-dry as that:  The Ravens are a franchise of their own that was started off the Browns franchise.  They'd still be the Browns if Modell had his way, but he agreed to change the name as part of the settlement.  Everything about the Ravens stems from their history as the Browns, but nothing about the new Browns is a continuation of the old Browns, aside from name, uniform, and location, so, yes, you're full of shit.

He moved the entire franchise, but left the history, name, and location in Cleveland, so Cleveland had to start a new team.  

The franchise that left is the one that won the titles, they just didn't take the titles with them.  That's a fact.  Please try and refute it.