01-06-2019, 05:59 PM
(01-06-2019, 04:45 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Deflecting and Deflecting.. you stated earlier he was not a good defensive coach before he got to Cincinnati, then you just give talking points. the Ravens were good ever he left. duh.. but they were not as good then when he was there.. you have refuted nothing of him as a defensive coach before he took Cincinnati as a head coach.. He did not achieve what we wanted as a head coach with the Bengals but to act like he is not a quality assistant coach in the past the facts do not show it.... and finally he was not a horrible head coach.. he did have a winning record when he finished, 4 league titles in a division of Steelers and Ravens and 7 playoff appearances, that is much better than many many coaches that have been head coaches in the history of the NFL.. The man is #24 in all time wins out of almost 500 coaches he have ever coached in the NFL
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/
PS: When you start resorting to media heads as your facts.. you just lose all credibility , I have nothing left to say on this thread.. lol
He's also 21st in games coached though. He's 86th in win %.
He's also tied with me for least playoff wins. Only he, Jim Mora and Norm Van Brocklin have coached 150+ games without a playoff win. This includes 59 coaches. Of course, Marv leads that category by a wide margin.
Of the 22 coaches with 250+ games, Marvin is 20th in win % (.518). Only Jeff Fisher (.512) and Weeb Eubank (.502) were worse. Marv is the only coach with 250+ games without at least 2 playoff wins.
Of course, this doesn't mean Marv was a terrible HC, just that he was allowed to be awfully mediocre for an awfully long time.
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