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QB Index by Gregg Rosenthal
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(09-11-2015, 08:54 AM)Brownshoe Wrote: Joe Flacco won't have a good year this year. The only reason why he was able to have such a good year last year was because of his OC. Kubiak had the Ravens run game going last year, and that helped Flacco with passing the ball, because Flacco is a game manager. Now he has a new OC you will see a huge decline in his game. Flacco had one decent game in his first 8 playoff games, and then in 2012 he's been great in the playoffs. I just don't see Flacco who is normally a game manager being that great.

We all know that the stats Dalton had last year was a fluke due to him having weapons that easily ranked in the bottom half of the league. Green wasn't 100% most of the year last year, and Sanu is a joke as a #2 receiver. When Dalton has had actual weapons he's shown that he can produce better stats than Flacco.

You're just talking in a bunch of hypotheticals and such though.

I'm okay with ignoring Andy's 2014 because of all the injuries, that's fine, I honestly don't even care at this point. At the end of the day, you have NO idea how he honestly would have played if they didn't happen though, none of us know that, so we have to go by what happened. Andy had a good start and then shit hit the fan, but he had an okay year with everything considered. Dalton had one year that he "proved" that, and I'm not ready to ignore Flacco having 5-6 average to solid seasons along with 4 great postseasons just because of what Andy did 1 time in the regular season and 0 times in the playoffs. This isn't about what they could hypothetically do, it's about what they have done and are doing.

It has been since 2010 with Flacco by the way, I don't know why you keep saying 2012 only. 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2014. That's 4 years, and there has been NO other QB in the league in that timespan that has been as good as Joe in the playoffs. I hate Flacco, but I'm not going to just close my eyes to his accomplishments. He's one of my least favorite QBs in the league, I hate his face and his "hey, let's throw a deep ball with my rocket arm just to fish for DPI calls all year" bullshit.

I'm just sayin' man, if you can look at everything I just posted in the above and the other post and still try to tell me that Andy Dalton deserves to be higher than Joe Flacco, there's something seriously biased going on in your evaluation. I'm all for moving Andy up a few spots, no issue there, but there's no possible way that he should be higher than Joe. Not a chance.
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