QB Index by Gregg Rosenthal

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(09-11-2015, 09:52 AM)djs7685 Wrote: When you're talking about QB rankings, you don't say "well let's compare them all by their first 4 years!". With that logic, it's only "apples to apples" if you use Andy's rookie season because otherwise it's not fair to Bortles, Bridgewater, and Carr. That doesn't make any sense at all, so instead we're going to talk about careers and most recent accomplishments when talking about QB rankings.

I do love to compare QBs who have played 6+ years to young QBs, because guess what? Those are Andy's peers. Those are Blake Bortle's peers. Those are Ryan Tannehill's peers. It's entirely irrelevant to compare what Blake Bortles did in 2015 to what Tom Brady did in 2001. It's actually NOT apples to apples to compare their first X years only. It makes the most sense when talking about QB rankings to compare them to their peers, which is exactly what a ranking system is doing.

I find it hilarious that Bengals fans think it's only "fair" and "apples to apples" to compare exactly the first 4 years of a career as if that makes any sense whatsoever in this type of discussion. Forget that other guys have played less than 4 years and it doesn't make any sense to begin with. Save that for the people who are dumb enough to go along with that shit logic. This is a QB ranking thread, not a "Who had a better first 4 years?" thread.

Well explain to me then if you go back in time and look at Flacco just years 1-4 against AD, you would project Flacco to get better, yet you project AD to not get better. I don't understand your logic of how you compare AD to his peers using a standard format of years AD has yet to play.

It is easy to see Flacco got better after those first 4 years, Manning got better after years 1-4 and same for Ben R.

You discuss hypotheticals all of the time and how dumb other people using them make them. Yet, you do the exact same thing.

The facts and apples to apples comparision is using their 1st 4 years because there is no comparision after that for AD, it is a hypothetical by you regardeless of how you spin it comparing anything after year 4 to other QB's.

Flacco was very inconsitent his 4 years, that is a fact. AD has been inconsistent his first 4 years, that is also a fact.