09-11-2015, 11:42 AM
(09-11-2015, 11:25 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Well explain to me then if you go back in time and look at Flacco just years 1-4 against AD, you would project Flacco to get better, yet you project AD to not get better. I don't understand your logic of how you compare AD to his peers using a standard format of years AD has yet to play.
It is easy to see Flacco got better after those first 4 years, Manning got better after years 1-4 and same for Ben R.
You discuss hypotheticals all of the time and how dumb other people using them make them. Yet, you do the exact same thing.
The facts and apples to apples comparision is using their 1st 4 years because there is no comparision after that for AD, it is a hypothetical by you regardeless of how you soin it comparing anything after year 4 to other QB's.
Flacco was very inconsitent his 4 years, that is a fact. AD has been inconsistent his first 4 years, that is also a fact.
Where did I ever project Andy to not get better? You're just making shit up out of nowhere to make a nonexistent point.
I'm on record saying Andy has a career year in 2015, sooooo I'm not sure why you're claiming that I'm saying the exact opposite.
In QB rankings, you compare them to their peers and their respective careers, not ONLY their peer's first X amount of years. That's stupid to do that.
It's not a hypothetical to compare Andy's career to someone else's career, you're sort of not bright for saying that. You can very much so compare someone's 7 year career to Andy's 4 year career. It's not "unfair". You're free to mention that Andy has only played for 4 seasons and that he can improve, and I'll agree with you! There's nothing made up or hypothetical or "unfair" about it though. I feel like you're not understanding the words that I'm saying very clearly.
You don't seem to know how QB rankings work. I'm positive that you don't know what the word "hypothetical" means. It's not "only fair" to compare what Tom Brady did 15 years ago to what Andy Dalton did 4 years ago, that doesn't make any sense and you're one of the only people trying to argue that awful point. There's a reason for that. You're one of the most frustrating people to argue with because you don't understand some of the most simple shit that people try to explain to you, and you constantly put words in peoples' mouths as well. Stop using terminology if you don't even know what it actually means. There is NOTHING hypothetical about me comparing Joe Flacco's 7 year career to Andy Dalton's 4 year career. Nothing.
(09-11-2015, 11:29 AM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: You obsession with propping up other QBs seems just as sad. If his numbers were so great, one season shouldn't have dropped him below "mediocre" Dalton.
I'll admit the guy has been good in the playoffs lately, but so has Alex Smith if that's going to be the metric by which "next level" QBs are judged.
Alex Smith has something like 196/327, 2,563 yards, 24 TD, 4 INT, and a Super Bowl ring?? Very interesting and fresh news! Oh, wait, he doesn't and you're just making shit up again. Alex Smith has played in a whopping 3 playoff games. Flacco has been great in the last 10 with only 1 bad game mixed in. Same thing though I guess.
How am I propping anybody up? I don't think Joe is amazing, but he's clearly better than Andy. It's not unnecessarily propping somebody up when you are one of the only people that are silly enough to continue to argue a losing argument. Joe Flacco's 7 year career trumps Andy Dalton's 4 year career SO FAR IN THEIR RESPECTIVE CAREERS. Joe Flacco played better than Andy Dalton in 2014, the most recent NFL season. I cut Andy slack for his performances due to injuries around him, but hey, Flacco proved to bounce back from his down season, so there's no good reason to say that he is worse than Andy right now.
