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QB Index by Gregg Rosenthal
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(09-11-2015, 11:42 AM)djs7685 Wrote: Where did I ever project Andy to not get better? You're just making shit up out of nowhere to make a nonexistent point.

I'm on record saying Andy has a career year in 2015, sooooo I'm not sure why you're claiming that I'm saying the exact opposite.

In QB rankings, you compare them to their peers and their respective careers, not ONLY their peer's first X amount of years. That's stupid to do that.

It's not a hypothetical to compare Andy's career to someone else's career, you're sort of not bright for saying that. You can very much so compare someone's 7 year career to Andy's 4 year career. It's not "unfair". You're free to mention that Andy has only played for 4 seasons and that he can improve, and I'll agree with you! There's nothing made up or hypothetical or "unfair" about it though. I feel like you're not understanding the words that I'm saying very clearly.

You don't seem to know how QB rankings work.


Alex Smith has something like 196/327, 2,563 yards, 24 TD, 4 INT, and a Super Bowl ring?? Very interesting and fresh news! Oh, wait, he doesn't and you're just making shit up again. Alex Smith has played in a whopping 3 playoff games. Flacco has been great in the last 10 with only 1 bad game mixed in. Same thing though I guess.

How am I propping anybody up? I don't think Joe is amazing, but he's clearly better than Andy. It's not unnecessarily propping somebody up when you are one of the only people that are silly enough to continue to argue a losing argument. Joe Flacco's 7 year career trumps Andy Dalton's 4 year career SO FAR IN THEIR RESPECTIVE CAREERS. Joe Flacco played better than Andy Dalton in 2014, the most recent NFL season. I cut Andy slack for his performances due to injuries around him, but hey, Flacco proved to bounce back from his down season, so there's no good reason to say that he is worse than Andy right now.

"Clearly", which is why when you add all his numbers up over his career they are lower than Dalton's.  "Clearly" he's been a better playoff QB than Dalton has.  However, the playoffs are only a fraction of a player's career.  It's as if with QBs the only games that seem to matter as far as actual QB talent is playoff games.  If that's the case, just rank players by playoff performances and call it a day.    
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QB Index by Gregg Rosenthal - djs7685 - 09-10-2015, 04:24 PM
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