04-10-2019, 03:28 PM
(04-10-2019, 11:30 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: When he went to the Pats, he was 33. A lot of WRs drop off then. He was on a 3-year decline to end his career.Andy's longest TD was 49 yards last year. Do you even watch the Bengals play? The long completions are usually because AJ adjusts to what is usually over thrown balls. AJ makes Dalton better not the other way around. You call me out for stats from the past while you use them to support yours. You name players like Lewis Reed and Polamalu when they didn't cover him. You tout the BROWNS defense when they finished out of the cellar once in the years you cited. Anybody who follows this team knows that Palmer> Dalton and that the teams Chad played with had much more talent and a much better total offense.
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About accurate deep ball throwing...
Most TDs on deep passes (20+ yards in air): Brees 15, Foles, 14, Dalton 14
— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) December 31, 2013
.@Bengals QB Andy Dalton recorded the sixth-highest adjusted completion percentage (47.3) on deep throws (20+ yards in air) last season.
— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) June 28, 2016
It's been proven again and again that (except the last few years when the OL has been atrocious and couldn't block even 2.5 seconds) that Dalton is actually a pretty good deep passer. Repeating that he isn't more often doesn't make it less false. People remember all the misses, and also don't realize that deep passes are a low completion % throw. If QBs could do it regularly then that's all they would do and we'd have NBA score level games.
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As for Chad with 56 more starts and "only" 2000 more yards, everyone knows you can't compare receiving yards between eras straight up 1:1 like that. That's why I showed Chad's rankings in the league instead.
For example, between 2003-2007 there were only 21 seasons of 4,000+ passing yards. That number in 2011-2015? 53 4,000+ yard seasons and 6 5,000+ yard seasons.
Think about that. You're trying to compare direct numbers 1:1 between a time when there wasn't nearly as many yards being thrown. I mean, that's an increase of 150%. Heck, in 2003 and 2005, there were only TWO people each year that threw for 4,000 yards.
Then you realize that Chad was putting up those numbers while playing in the toughest defensive division in football (which the AFCN hasn't been for years).
Look at the yardage rankings Chad had from before in '03-'07: 4th, 6th, 3rd, 1st, and 3rd
(Yeah, he was 4th in '03 even with JON KITNA as his QB.)
Now look at the yardage rankings AJ has from '11-'15: 17th, 10th, 5th, 20th, and 8th
That's their best stretches of football, each, and while AJ has been really good, Chad was consistently at the top. It's not really a comparison. It's why while AJ has a bunch of Pro Bowls, he's never been a 1st Team All-Pro, while Chad had 3 straight.
So here's me, again, telling you Chad is the greatest Bengals wideout.
