01-22-2020, 03:20 PM
(01-22-2020, 02:31 PM)Whatever Wrote: What do the #2-6 teams in the draft order have in common?
They all have at least one guy on your list.
In fact, the only guy on this list that played for a team with a winning record is AJ Brown, and he tied for the league lead in 40+yard receptions with 8(Mike Williams also had 8).
The majority of these guys are on bad teams and get forced the ball due to a lack of weapons and/or being down on the scoreboard. Several of them were also #1's on bad teams and saw a lot of double coverage as a result.
There are times when the QB has to thread the needle, but forcing him to do it over and over again just isn't a recipe for winning football. A lot of the tools that made big, slow WR's effective in the past like push offs and using the DB to elevate have been cracked down on in recent years.
What does the team record have to do with anything? We are talking about the importance, or in reality lack of importance, of separation. Nothing you said in regards to trying to explain away guys stats has any relation to how effective a guy can be with little separation. You want to act as though there is some tie in with records so let's compare Hill (Best receiver in Super Bowl) versus Golladay (Least separation of anyone in the league).
Tyreek Hill on a Super Bowl playing team, In 12 games 89 Targets 58 receptions 860 yards 7 TD's
Kenny Golladay on a bad team, In 16 games 119 Targets 65 receptions 1190 yards 11 TD's
By your logic the Chiefs shouldn't be good because they force the ball too much to Hill, or the Lions should be better because 7.4 targets a game isn't forcing it. The reality is there is no causation in terms of #1 WR targets and winning. Julio Jones is on this list, Julio Freaking Jones. Julio Jones is considered a great WR and a 4.39 40 guys and he get's less separation than Tate yet we are somehow going to pretend like separation is a big deal?
Just stop with the nonsense. That list is littered with really good WR's that had I not shown you the list and asked if the WR's were good, or if they could get separation, everyone here would say "heck yea, we'd love to have those guys!". Tate may not be a superstar but we don't have to make up reasons to hate on the guy. He performed well when give a chance and I'd expect he will have more opputunity next season.
