02-04-2020, 06:43 PM
(02-04-2020, 05:19 PM)spazz70 Wrote: Because he is not elite....He had one phenomenal season.....he weighs 215 pounds at 6' 3"....he does not possess elite arm strength...He is though a very smart and accurate thrower ala Peyton Manning.... That is saying a lot though, comparing him to manning but that is what I see with him but can he overcome being sacked 50-60 times a year like Manning did the first few years.. Will his brains outshine his lack of arm strength in certain situations?
It is not hard to comprehend because there are certain aspects about him that are not elite.
Luck was elite...Go back and look at draft reports and stats from as far back as his sophomore year. One of the best prospects in 20 years, a definitive number one overall draft pick. No OL and got killed by it and having to run the ball. Mediocre NFL stats and 6 year career. All of this to a stud of a QB, probably 10 times the prospect that Joe Burrow is.
I am not going to be mad and have resigned to the fact that the Burrow will be the pick. I just do not see what everyone else does. I do not see a prototypical number one overall QB. I hope he comes here and the Bengals magically make some moves and we have a majestic OL and he is the rookie of the year. unfortunately after 40 years of watching this team I just do not see it happening.
I also would not be unhappy if they traded the pick for 3-4 1st rounders and a few more 2-3 rounders and drafted someone like Herbert or Eason alter on.
Here is the thing for me...The Bengals have come straight out over the years and told everyone that they build through the draft and are not players early in FA. This means that if you have more picks and bust on half you still can get a few out of the picks that will contribute or start.
Example
we do the trade from what I have seen
Swap from 1 to 5
their 18th
their 2 and 3
and possibly 1-2 more 1st the next two years
that gives us picks
5, 18, 33, 39, 65 and 70
SIX picks in the top 70, this year...even if 2 (QB, OL, LB) are day one starters, one develops over time and one is significant on STs or such then that is a success, that is getting 4 quality players out of the draft over time (hopefully)
compared to staying pat...
1 pick in each of the 1st 3 rounds.
Burrow will start
33rd- hopefully a day one starter (OL, LB)
65th- who knows???
Sorry, I just can't get not trading out of this pick out of my mind. It would have to be something similar to the above to do it.
Well I disagree obviously, I definitely saw an elite QB playing last season at LSU.
Best season of all time for a QB in college and you say he is not elite? Come on. His accuracy, smarts, pocket awareness
are all elite traits. There is no one even close in this Draft and Burrow outplayed Lawrence in the big game handily and
Lawrence is considered an elite prospect.
(02-04-2020, 06:21 PM)Bengalstripes18 Wrote: I agree with you on most things, but I don't see a huge need to bring in more skill players. For years we have tried to build our team from the outside in. Grabbing TO and Bryant the year we tanked. Etc. It sells tickets, but you win games up front. We need to start building from the trenches outwards like the 9ers in my opinion. The priority should be on the offensive line, and front 7 on defense. That's where we have the most room for improvement IMO.
Considering the draft is so heavy on wideouts, I would still draft a wideout if one falls to us as the BPA, though. I just wouldn't spend on a Free Agent WR other than AJ, though. Just my opinion. I seem to be in the minority in thinking AJ has several years left in the tank. I get that Ross is injury prone, but we have depth behind him. I really don't see much more room other than maybe one more wideout this year.
I think our skill positions are our biggest strength. I think if our offensive line were better we would see our skill players playing quite well.
Hey, IF AJ, Ross and Eifert stay healthy I agree that we don't need more skill players but that is a big IF.
