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Andy Dalton is a Quitter
(04-30-2020, 04:55 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: If this is true the team massively misplayed this entire situation. They should have released at the start of free agency and applied the cap savings to free agency.

But, if Andy is the great guy and team player people say he is why wouldn’t he do the home town discount deal?

Also, you’re claiming he would be the clear back up?  My question is why?  Why is he the clear back up? His experience in the system and with the roster giving him an advantage combined with his talent, why is he clearly the back up? And why isn’t he willing to bet on himself in Cincinnati?

I gotta go for now. Later.

We did misplay the situation. Cutting Andy and using the savings towards free agency is what I wanted to happen back in February. I knew a trade would be difficult with the over-saturated QB market. That said, apparently we need to cut Andy to have room to sign our rookies, so it looks like we spent all we could in free agency anyway. The Bengals tried to find a trade and failed. So a release was necessary to both Dalton AND the team.

Again, name the long term starter who got benched and then took a massive pay cut to stay with the team that benched him...and we don't even know that this was an option. It's just as possible (probably more-so) that the Bengals were just going to move on to a fresh new era with no Dalton peering over Burrow's shoulder.

If I really have to explain to you why Dalton would've been the clear backup behind Burrow, I don't think you're really thinking this through rationally. Or your vendetta is blinding you.

1. Teams rarely take a guy #1 overall and keep him on the bench. The last 9 QB's taken 1OA started on opening day. The last one who didn't was Jamarcus Russell. Joe Burrow is not Jamarcus Russell.

2. We played to half empty stadiums last year. The remaining fans would revolt if Dalton somehow won the starting gig.

3. Burrow is better than Dalton. Or at least common sense says he very likely will be.

Betting on himself in this situation would be a fool's bet. You're not really being fair or reasonable here. The team moved on and Dalton is still (somewhat) in his prime. He's not 36 and washed up like Kenny was when he accepted a role as Boomer's backup. Any QB in Dalton's situation would move on to a place where they can realistically compete to be starter.

(04-30-2020, 07:12 PM)Benton Wrote: I'm not big on locking threads. Or suspending guys.

But folks, keep it civil or both options are on the table.

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(04-30-2020, 07:41 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Only 2 teams? Count again. NE said no thanks, we are sticking with Stidham about an hour ago. 

So who is left? Jax?
Didn't MInshew finish with a higher qb rating last year and is only 23? Jax would be better served sticking with a younger AD and developing him. He might get an offer from Jax, but it will be for peanuts and it will be for a back up role. I'd stick with Minshew and if he's stinking up the joint during the season next year, then I think about signing AD. No reason for doing so now. Wait and see. 

That sounds like AD is really in control of where he plays next.  Sarcasm

Link? I've seen reports that New England and Jacksonville are both interested.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2020/04/30/whats-next-andy-dalton-patriots-jaguars-reportedly-interested/3055285001/

The closest I've seen to the Pats saying "no thanks" is reports saying they'd only be interested in Dalton as a supplement to their QB room, not as a long term answer over Stidham.

https://www.si.com/nfl/patriots/gm-report/no-aggressive-push-by-pats-to-sign-dalton
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RE: Andy Dalton is a Quitter - Fullrock - 04-30-2020, 02:25 PM
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