LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias

[Brownshoe]

(08-27-2020, 01:13 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Your argument is that we have to assume the worst out of everyone who isn't the killer and that such assumptions justify killing people, but we cannot look at the fact that no one used or threatened to use any lethal force against him.

You saying they should have arrested him is irrelevant when you're arguing after the fact that it would have been best to leave him to the cops when we know for a fact that the cops let him go after seeing him run away armed from gunshot victims as people yelled "he's the shooter". 

Some will see justification for killing in every situation. Some don't. It's a difference in how we perceive the world around us. In the meantime, he's facing murder charges.

No, my argument is that the only thing we see before the video starts is Joseph being aggressive towards the militia. When the video starts Joseph was chasing Kyle. There were gun fires shot, Kyle (being on the defense at the time) turned around and shot Joseph (being on the offense at the time) in the head. There is more than enough reason to believe at the very least serious bodily harm was going to happen to Kyle. After Kyle is running away there are more gunshots going off. You then see Kyle running away and a mob running after him, some attacking him. After getting hit and tripping up Kyle is being assaulted by getting stomped in the head, hit in the head with a skateboard, and a man running up with a pistol drawn. The only choice he has at that point is to defend himself more, shoots and kills one and wounds another. Then he went to the police, who should have arrested him and started an investigation.

There is only one assumption that I'm making and it's not a baseless one because there's evidence of aggression. There were MULTIPLE threats of serious injuries (being chased with multiple other possible aggressive people around) and lethal force (getting hit in the head with a skateboard, stomped on, and a gun pointed at him). You try to say there's no "fact that no one used or threatened to use any lethal force against him" which is untrue.

The best thing that could have happened is that no militia went out and let the police do their job. The second best thing is not to try to attack a guy with a gun who's trying to retreat. The third best thing is to let the cops deal with Kyle shooting the first guy.