Taylor/Tobin

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(11-27-2020, 01:16 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Since 1968 Mike Brown has been looking for the next Otto Graham and in Joe Burrow he finally found his man.  Mike has been quoted as saying once a team finds its franchise quarterback everything else falls into place.  Thirty years of no playoff wins proves him wrong.

Last week’s game against Washington further proved this tired old theory to be a stinking lie.  Even the best quarterbacks in history needed to be surrounded by those with basic football competence but the Bengals made a mockery of this, placing the worst coached offensive line in front of Joe Burrow and in front of Andy Dalton and Carson Palmer before that.  Oh, sure, there were better than average offensive lines in place between 2004-2006 and between 2009-2015 but I remember blood spurting from Carson Palmer’s nose and I remember the scream of pain from Joe Burrow just last week when his knee was twisted and mangled.

The blame falls on four people, each in turn:  

1. Jim “Turnstile” Turner, the offensive line coach.
2. Zac Taylor, the coach who hired Jim Turner.
3. Duke Tobin, the guy who hired Zac Taylor.
4. Mike Brown, the guy who keeps Duke Tobin employed.

A lot of truth here.

(11-27-2020, 01:27 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: I'd flip that list around. Either way, Duke has survived for over 20 years with the Bengals. When he didn't get fired with ML, he's officially a lifer. There's nothing that will get him fired besides him wanting to leave. Accountability is not a thing with the Bengals. 

I agree but we can't fire Mike so.....

(11-27-2020, 03:40 PM)3wt Wrote: And you need to factor in what ownership (read Troy Blackburn in my mind at this point) allows or "suggests" what Duke and Zach do.

Turner is his own issue and Zac is culpable for that hire.   The recent Jesse article appears to indicate that Turner's biggest issue - besides behavioral - is his tendencies to play favorites.   And apparently that problem extended to Anarumo.

I'm not saying that Dunlap did not contribute to his release here, but losing a player of his caliber was inexcusable.   We already had enough holes to fill.   It also is another indictment by another NFS team of the Bengals team culture.

I was pretty pissed at Dunlap when the whole thing was going down. But after some perspective (the toxic culture) I'm now not so angry with him.

The entire bunch needs to be gone from Tobin down to the water boy.