Opinion: DeSantis 2024?

[Dill]

(04-05-2023, 03:57 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: So are you also saying an Independent must give equal amount of speeches to Democrats???? You sound like a Fascist Nazi, "its my way or the highway". 

This was the second red herring.

My claims are that 1) Gabbard has traveled the country endorsing the farthest right candidates at all levels of state and federal government. 

And 2) those endorsements are very hard to square with all the liberal policy positions you attribute to her. If those people get hold of government, those positions will never become or remain policy. So how sincere can she really be about holding them? 

No rules in there about what "independents" have to do--only the question of why an "independent" helps those who negate the policy positions you insist she still holds. 

The only thing that can be plausibly inferred from my claims is that Gabbard is very confused or no longer holds most of the liberal policy positions you listed.
Or perhaps that your "independent" is not really independent. If she claims to be independent, then she is like someone who supports the doctrine of transubstantiation and Papal infallibility, but claims to favor no particular religion.

Nothing in my claims asserts that she must give equal time to Democrats. Rather, the implication is that she wouldn't because she no longer supports Dem polices, if she ever really did. 

Finally a note on political history--"Nazi fascists" do not argue against weaponization of government, nor do they oppose use of news media for party propaganda. They want a public confused, disoriented, paralyzed, and unable to recognize false equivalence. This is in part effected by separating rhetorical claims from evidence--only then can they be successful at accusing the opponents of fascism of doing what fascists actually do. They DO however place their leader's word above law. Trump himself has an understanding of this, as when he notes with pride that he would not lose a vote if he shot someone on 5th Avenue in broad daylight.  No Dem leader can expect that kind of fanatical and anti-democratic support. Trump can. 

PS this does not turn the fascism charge back on you or even Trump. As I've argued in the past, he is an authoritarian for sure, but falls rather short of the discipline and sacrifice and scorn of luxury and money we find in actual fascists. I would only say that you misrecognize authoritarian governance, seeing it where it is not and not seeing it where it is.