Sewell vs Chase Civil War

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(04-03-2021, 02:02 PM)impactplaya Wrote: How many.different  things went against the oline in 2020


This oline had the following happen last year
1. Losing starting XSF  for half the season.
2. Losing Jonah for last 6 games
3. Having the worst RT in the AFC North 
And a bottom 5 RT.
4. The coaching staff giving  Jordan a LG job.
5. The worst oline coach in the business
6. ZT having a pass heavy run ratio.
7. Turner not having this oline prepared on Sundays

This oline could never establish a identity in 2020.
Wanna know why the Cleveland Browns made the playoffs
Their oline was healthy all year.
It had 5 guys that were getting cohesive week to week.

Alot of the things that ailed this oline in 2020 has been 
Addressed already.

This reminds me of all those years where people blamed the playoff losses on an injury to this guy, or that guy throwing 2 picks, or this guy fumbling the ball. At some point you just have to recognize the common issue: We had one Head Coach who was 0-forever in the playoffs.

Here, we've lacked talent on the line for 5 years. We never replaced guys like Whit and Zeitler with equal talent. We kept fumbling around with backup level players like XSF and BJ Finney in free agency. We plugged in players who fell in the draft like Ogbuehi, Fisher and Bodine. We tried UDFA's like Alex Redmond.

It's time to stop taking the Dollar General approach to finding o-linemen.

(04-03-2021, 02:19 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: I haven't really gotten into the whole Sewell vs Chase debate other than to say I don't think there's a wrong choice. 

If they take Sewell, that's awesome...but they better find a couple of good WR's, with one of them being a guy who can play outside and get downfield, giving Burrow a legit 3rd option other than Higgins and Boyd.

If they take Chase, that's great too, but they better grab a couple of o-lineman as well, and one of them needs to be in the 2nd where there will be line talent available that will be to help year 1, whether it's T/G or C. 

I would love to have Sewell, but I think there are other ways to address the o-line in the draft. I would love to have Chase, but I think there are other options that can help later on. I guess my point is, I think they're in a great position and it would be really hard to mess this up. No matter which guy they take, assuming they don't trade out, they have an opportunity to have a great draft and improve this team in a big way. 

Hell, if the Falcons take a QB or trade out, and Pitts is there at 5...I think I might prefer him over Sewell and Chase. He is an insane talent - who is capable of doing so many different things and giving an offense so many different options - and it's hard not to envision what Burrow could do with Pitts, Boyd and Higgins.

They can have a good draft even if the skip Sewell. I agree you there. That said...it'll be risky to do so. We don't know who will be available in the 2nd. The guy we want to target there could be plucked before we pick. There could be run on linemen. We just don't know. Hence why I say you address (by far) our biggest need with who is also (arguably) the BPA at #5.

Also, taking linemen in rounds 2-4 is something we've been doing, and it hasn't worked out.

We need speed on the outside, but we don't need another 1000 yard guy. Higgins and Boyd can produce that, and Boyd is paid to produce that. We need a speed guy who can get around 700 yards and take the top off the defense. A lot of guys can do that, not just Chase. Using the 5th pick on Chase for that is kinda like saying you need a car to commute to work and buying a Maserati....when you have a hole in your roof that you patch with duct tape again.

We're not going to agree here, and that's fine. Hopefully if we do take Chase, they finally hit on some linemen in rounds 2-5. It's possible. Eventually we'll get a winning lottery ticket. I hope.