07-01-2022, 02:34 AM
(06-30-2022, 08:33 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Kevin, your obsession with the contracts of Votto and Moose is getting a little creepy. But we can't just shut down the entire operation and not make any moves unless we can move those two. That just is not realistic. At this point I don't see any team that would take either of them with us paying most of the salary.
What is realistic is that we are going to lose 100 games this year even if we keep Castillo and Drury. I actually like Castillo a lot, but he will be 30 next year. I don't want to give him a big long term deal at this age. So get a prospect for him.
Greene went 4 innings and the next game Ashcraft went 2.1 innings. The Reds better keep Castillo for now because the Reds are not allowed to carry the 100 Relievers that would be needed without Castillo. The Reds rookie pitchers are lately having problems, which is often the case with rookie pitchers. They have never gone The Long Season of The Majors. I hate to say it, but Greene and Ashcraft may have many more rocky games ahead this season. Somebody has to help the relievers with innings on this lousy team, and it looks like that is Castillo.
Also if they trade Drury, the Reds will not have one single power hitter on this years team.
Not that I care that much anymore. I am ready for Bengals Football. The 2022 Reds stink.
I will predict this. When the Bengals dumped the contracts of AJ Green and Dalton and some 1st Round Picks that never cut the mustard, only then did they get better. The year will come Votto and Moose will be gone, and hopefully Reds then spend that money as wise as Bengals did. There are no trades that will help Reds until the days of Votto and Moose are over. I would not trade my only good pitcher and my only home run hitter at this time, because they are kind of needed just to finish this season, and the fact that no trade will help the Reds until Votto and Moose are gone.
4 innings by Green and 2.1 innings by Ashcraft. No, I do not think MLB will let the Reds carry 100 relief pitchers, so they better keep Castillo.
This is not to say there isn't Help coming. Keep your eyes on the July MLB Draft. The Reds have extra early picks and they should be able to stock up The Futures in The Minors that way without trading Castillo and Drury who they will need just to finish the season. Like it or not, they still have 3 months to play, and Reds will need their only good pitcher and only home run hitter just to complete the 3 months of games that must be played out.
THE DRAFT. That is where to seek the help needed for The Minors now and The Reds maybe around 2025, which is when Votto and Moose should be History. Still, it may be creepy to you, but I would do The Moneyball Movie and pay some team half of Votto's Contract to dump him now, and instantly as GM this would dump at least half of Votto's contract. It is all based on Moneyball Movie, but Reds could use half of Votto contract now. Get Votto to give them a list of teams he would play for, and offer those teams that Reds are willing to pay half his contract to play for them. That is how much I would want Votto off the team now instead of waiting until 2025 when his contract runs out. The Moose is another who I would pay half his salary to play for another team. Not looking for anything in return for them, just dumping half their payrolls, which would give Reds Moneyball Money to try to field a better team in 2023. It is all MoneyBall because it has to be. What to you is " Creepy ", is just the Facts that the Reds are a Small Market Franchise saddled with some huge contracts that are killing them. Like the Oakland A's GM in that movie, you go against 150 years of baseball and change with the times or die. Tampa Rays are a great example of how to win playing Moneyball. In Votto the Reds have the highest paid Red ever as a First Baseman with only 5 homers and batting around .220, so I would gladly pay a team half his salary to dump him and get back half his salary. Same for Moose batting around .200 with not many homers. It's not about Trading For Players, it's about dumping these 2 guys. Reds can get Minor League Players in The Draft in July, they don't need to Trade for them.
I think it " creepy " not to address the real problem with this team, and that is Votto and Moose shouldn't even be on this team. Because the Reds are Small Market, they hurt the team even more. It is just basic Money, Now I know Fans look at the spirit of the game and such, but Money is a major issue in Pro Sports. The Reds simply are spending way too much money on bad players. I would be willing to pay another team Half of Vottos salary to play for them, just to get rid of him Now, and start saving money Now. That is how bad Votto is, and Moose is even worse. The Reds are spending way too much money on bad ballplayers. The Bengals just came out of the same situation. The reason The Bengals won was because they finally dumped bad player payroll. The Reds will not win until they do likewise.
I would keep Castillo and Drury who are earning their paychecks. It's the players not earning their paychecks that have to go, just like the players The Bengals got rid of after Marvin left and Zac took over. Which brings us to Bell and the Reds GM, and they are not showing they should retain their jobs. Like Marvin fired, maybe Reds need some major Coaching changes as well going forward.
We will agree to disagree and the awful 2022 Reds are not worth arguing about. I say look to the MLB Draft in July for the Future Reds. Whatever Reds get in trades would probably be some other teams garbage of no help to Reds. Teams would want Castillo and Drury, they just won't offer much in return. It would be more bad trades on Reds part. The Reds need to look to the year 2025, unless they can dump Votto before then. Please don't hang on to him just to have Joey Votto Day around year 2025.
1968 Bengal Fan
